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steve198329 Hunter

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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: Does anyone notice a difference eating organic meat? |
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I would like to know if anyone here has been eating a diet of 100% all organic meat here for at least 3 months or more. If so do you notice a difference in health from not eating conventional supermarket meat? Does it make a big differenence? If so what did you notice. Do you look better? Do you feel better? What is the deifference?
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ReddyMcMeaty The Boss

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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'll tell you when I can afford it  _________________ "Man lives on one quarter of what he eats. On the other three quarters lives his doctor." |
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Plasma Pack Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| i been mostly eating organic grass fed beef or bison for quite a long time... i do eat non organic occasionally, i dont notice much of a difference |
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Rebekah Newbie

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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:58 am Post subject: |
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I eat 100% organic meat/fat. Grassfed Bison makes up the majority of my diet. I've had some non organic grain fed meat a few times in the last year. I can tell the difference, but I'd say it doesn't affect me greatly due to the fact that I rarely consume non organic meat.
It was a slow progression into eating an all organic diet.. and I was also a vegetarian at the time.. so I don't know how a quick change in non to organic meat would feel.
I believe that altering food from it's natural form greatly impacts my health. So, grass fed, organic or wild meat is the only way for me. I can't afford it either.. all my money goes to food. I have plans to learn to bow hunt in my future to provide more of my meat.
Also, I won't support the conventional meat industries. I would rather live off cheap organic grain than give money to those industries. |
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cabalco Pack Member


Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 73
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| Rebekah wrote: | | I have plans to learn to bow hunt in my future to provide more of my meat. |
Hmmmm yeah, bow hunting.... What kind of animals do you want to hunt? In the forests here you can only find some game which is really hard to catch because they are so fast! |
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Rebekah Newbie

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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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I want to hunt everything. I also want to learn to fish using nets and with primitive fishing tools. I'm interested in using a sligshot to catch smaller animals too.
There isn't much to hunt around here either.. I live in the subarbs. Hopefully, I'll be moving into a yurt/wigwam on some land in about a year.. somewhere with much more wilderness. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Rebekah wrote: | | Hopefully, I'll be moving into a yurt/wigwam on some land in about a year.. somewhere with much more wilderness. |
For real? _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Rebekah Newbie

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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Yea totally for real. My dream is to live in a wigwam that I build myself from saplings and bark.. but when I first move to some land I may need to use a yurt until I get things started.
I'm not sure where I'm going to live yet. My mom and I are buying land together and we haven't come to any certinty as to where we should go. Maybe northwest Montana, maybe southern B.C., maybe Vermont, maybe Washington. So, the landbase will totally determine on what type of primitive dwelling I will live in. Wigwams do best in the northeast Forests of the US.. so I'll have to wait and see.
I have a partially built wigwam in my back yard at the moment. I used Sugar Maple saplings for the frame and I was in the process of finding bark to cover it when the seasons snuck up on me. So, I covered it with some tarps and I hope to work on the bark this Spring. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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I admit to totally derailing this thread, but... is living in a wigwam in the forest and hunting your own food even legal in the US? Seems like something that Americans would not be allowed to do unless they're living on a protected reservation and have first nations status or have 18 zillion special licenses and even then they'd be limited in what and how they could hunt. Maybe I'm wrong! I'm truly interested and not judging - I want to know that people are allowed to live like natives!
And if you don't mind me asking - what do you do for a living and how old are you? Is this a long term plan, or just something you want to do for a few years while you're young? If you own property, certainly you'd have to pay taxes on it and therefore have to be earning some kind of money? Maybe you're independently wealthy and can do whatever you want and I'll just shut up now...  _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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I know that when I eat orgasmic meat there's like this big rush kind feeling I get when... oh, organic meat! Sorry  |
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Rebekah Newbie

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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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No I don't mind you asking me any questions. I like to share myself with others.
.. I'm not really sure about legality of wigwam living. I do know that I have several friends in the US who live in wigwams or similar primitive dwellings and have run into no legal problems. There are several primitive communities such as the Teaching Drum and Wild Roots..
http://www.teachingdrum.org/
http://www.wildroots.org/
.. who have residents that live in Wigwams. Actually, I'd have to say that no, it's not illegal to live in a wigwam. I can't imagine these communities getting away with it if it wasn't. But you know, I wouldn't care if it was illegal.
As for hunting.. I know there are only certain times of the month when one can legally hunt with a bow.. however there are ways to hunt and trap without the law getting in the way. Roadkill is a great way to get meat without hunting as well.
I'm 26 circles of the seasons old. I share a home with my mom and I sell braintan buckskin for a living. I tan about 15 Deer hides a month and sell them online.
As for the future and making money.. I don't think it's too helpful to stress about how everything is going to work out. With the way things are on earth right now.. I don't think anything is to certain. I'm hoping to live more and more primitively as I age.. and to need money less and less.
Rewilding and living primitively is a path that I have no intentions of leaving in this lifetime.. so yes, this is a long term plan. |
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ReddyMcMeaty The Boss

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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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ok Ava I laughed. But I've had a very large and strong white russian so... _________________ "Man lives on one quarter of what he eats. On the other three quarters lives his doctor." |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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So we're back to the potato again or do you really mean a Large and Tall White Russian and what's his name
White Russians were my drink of choice while Bartending  |
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golooraam Carnivore King


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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Plasma wrote: | | i been mostly eating organic grass fed beef or bison for quite a long time... i do eat non organic occasionally, i dont notice much of a difference |
honestly no, even though i eat mostly organic
but in terms of flavor, organic chicken and pork (to me at least) taste a lot better |
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Galeron Top Cat


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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| Rebekah wrote: | | Also, I won't support the conventional meat industries. I would rather live off cheap organic grain than give money to those industries. |
I gotta draw the line there... I mean, if it really came down to it... Organic grain or conventional meat........ I'd take the conventional meat myself. _________________ VLC/high fat since 11/18/06 | 5'11'' @ 143 lbs. | Indeterminate Colitis 06/23/08 | Accutane user 8+ years ago & trying to heal | Egg/dairy free since 05/25/08 |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Galeron wrote: | | Rebekah wrote: | | Also, I won't support the conventional meat industries. I would rather live off cheap organic grain than give money to those industries. |
I gotta draw the line there... I mean, if it really came down to it... Organic grain or conventional meat........ I'd take the conventional meat myself. |
Hopefully we won't ever have to make that choice. Personally, if I could eat all organic, I would, just for the sake of the environment. But honestly, not necessarily for the sake of my body: organically grown plants tend to be higher in salicylates, since they need to produce more natural pesticides to protect themselves (a natural defense system against predators is exactly what a salicylate is). Honestly, eating locally is my biggest priority, over eating organic. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| If I could afford to eat organic all the time I'd eat it for me and because- that's how animals are supposed to eat and plants to grow. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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There are plenty of farmers who grow food in a completely organic and humane or eco-friendly fashion but can't afford to spend the administrative dollars or hours to get the 'organic' seal of approval. It can take well over 15 hours a week of admin time to manage an organic label and what farmer wants to spend that time, when they could be out in the fields? The 'organic' label isn't always necessary. Know where your food is coming from and you'll be the better for it. Don't just look at the label and call it a day. Something could be 'organic', but grown 1000 miles away, which isn't doing a hell of a lot for the environment. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree, and I agree about eating Locally, but I fail at that more often than not. I haven't given up trying though. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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A woman I know opened a great store about a 15 min. walk from my house that sells only Ontario local ingredients. Not quite the 100-mile diet, because Ontario is frigging enormous. But still - brilliant! Every city and town should have a store just like it. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| That's very exciting! Maybe it will catch on more and more. |
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steve198329 Hunter

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| golooraam wrote: | | Plasma wrote: | | i been mostly eating organic grass fed beef or bison for quite a long time... i do eat non organic occasionally, i dont notice much of a difference |
honestly no, even though i eat mostly organic
but in terms of flavor, organic chicken and pork (to me at least) taste a lot better |
Have you guys tried eating convential for a long period of time? Or have you been eating mostly organic from the start of this diet? |
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cabalco Pack Member


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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| I sometimes eat conventional meat, when i do not have access to my organic butcher. And because i am his best client i get my meat for a good price. But the conventional meat is often very dry, no real taste and hard to chew. I don't really like it, i think it is harder to digest too. But beef is not a matter here if organic or conventional. However i have access to beef which is feeded without "silage", from where most cow diseases come from. In my opinion "silage" feeding is the worst for animals because it is the greatest source for bugs and dieseases. |
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Viking Dan Carnivore King


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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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I've not tried eating organic meat exclusively due to cost, but whenever I've indulged in it, it doesn't give the "heavy" feeling I get from regular meat.
Not a very scientific answer, but there it is. _________________ Viking Dan
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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That's really heavy, Viking Dan 
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