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Lottie · Flesh Eater Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 33

I'm not sure if this isn't going to turn into more of a journal than a challenge, but since I don't have access to the journal section yet, this is where it's going. Please, feel free to join me or chime in with your own holiday goals if you're so minded.

This month, I have some events I'm going to and I've decided I want to be a certain BMI for each of them. (I'm at the middish of my "recommended" weight range, so that's not as crazy as it sounds.)

I was 22 BMI yesterday.
Next Friday I want to be 21 (-7 lbs)
The Friday after that, I want to be 20.5. (-5 lbs)
By New Years, I want to be maintaining 20 BMI (-2 lbs), although if I hit that earlier, I might raise the bar again.

Anyway, my goals for this week is to get all of my carbs from eggs at and drink nothing but water. The second should be easy for me, the first is a little more challenging, but hey, that's the name of the game, right?

So. Starting yesterday, I had two eggs sunny-side up and a side of bacon. That's probably about 2 carbs. (Yes, I ate more than that, but those were my only sources of carbs.)
Today: none so far.

adwred · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject:

Wow.

That is a lot of weight to lose, very quickly, for someone who is already at a normal BMI! Good luck! Yup

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Lottie · Flesh Eater Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 33

Thanks! Considering that I can gain 12lbs in a week just by eating a couple rolls and a piece of pie (my faults last Thanksgiving, which have since been corrected), I'm hoping that 7lbs on a strict diet won't be too fast. If it doesn't happen in time for my parties, well, the world won't end and I figure my little changes are good for me, regardless.

It probably helps that I have a small bone structure and a high body fat percentage. On a ketogenic diet my body wants to lose the fat it seems. I've lost about 6 BMI points since I went vlc and I'm curious about when it'll stop.

DaphneDescends · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject:

I'm not to hot on BMI ... mostly because it tells me I'm obese. I mean, I know I'm overfat, but I also have really muscular buttocks and thighs! SOOO doesn't take that into account. Oh well.

Still, I wish you luck on your challenge. The holidays can be grueling if you're not eating SAD, but at least you know you'll feel great and healthy when everyone else is lethargic from all the carb gorging.

jl53563 · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject:

Lottie · Flesh Eater Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 33

True, BMI isn't appropriate for the very muscular, but I have no muscle definition at all and a waist/hip ratio of 70%. Because of that, I've always found that BMI overestimates how much I can weigh and not look overfat (There's a 40lb difference between 19 and 25BMI, after all).

It'd be different if I lifted weights more, of course (and I plan to do that more seriously when life gets a little less stressful).

Daphne, thanks for the encouragement. My own family's pretty supportive of this woe, but it'll be interesting going out and still avoiding hurting people's feelings by not eating their aunt's famous sweet potato casserole with mini-marshmallows and a graham cracker crust or whatever. :0)

As far as the challenge:

Thursday: ~2 carbs (from bacon and eggs)
Friday, Saturday: 0 carbs
Today: 0 so far.

jl53563 · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject:

I was talking about waist-height ratio, not waist-hip ratio. So in other words, if you are say, 66 inches tall, then if your waist is 33 inches or less, you are ok, even if your BMI is a bit high.

Lottie · Flesh Eater Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 33

My bad! I'm so used to hearing waist-hip that I totally missed that. 70% would be a terrible waist-height ratio, wouldn't it? My real number is 42%.

I'm curious, though -- Couldn't waist-height be misleading for women who are naturally curvy? With small waists but fatter hips, thighs, and arms?

DaphneDescends · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:57 am Post subject:

Waist to height ratio? Never heard of that before. For a second I also thought you were talking about hip/waist, in which case I'd be 32/48= 0.667. How do I figure that into a percentage?

As far as height to waist... hmm... so I'm 62" tall and have a 32" waist
*sighs as she remembers when her waist was 27"*
So my ratio would be... 0.516.
So it's a tad high then?

Lottie, I would think the waist/height thing would be ok for curvy girls, since their waists are still small and that's what it's taking into account no?

Hmmm.... it's all very interesting.
Everyone's body is so different! When will the mainstream take this into account when it comes to magazine, clothes, etc. BOO!

adwred · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:26 am Post subject:

There are studies showing women with fatter hips and thighs and smaller waists are actually healthier and less likely to have heart disease than women without fat in those areas. I'll have to find the article. Also - women are supposed to be curvy. I'm so sick of the BMI. Fat in the thighs and hips is totally natural and should be (IMHO) the desirable way to be, rather than these skinny boy-shaped women who are featured in the media.
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I don't know who these people are who have a problem with little waisted women who have fatty legs, ass and arms anyway. Isn't that like, how a fertile woman is supposed to look? Maybe it's a grass is greener thing, but I love women that way.. (I'm tall and have lean limbs, long legs and not much waist) I'm excessively fertile though. Go figure.
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Lottie · Flesh Eater Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 33

The stick-thin boy-girls are almost always very underweight according to BMI. My favorite overheard quote while walking past one: "well, her babies are going to starve."

As far as curvy women go, the biggest complainers I know are the women, themselves. My friends who are that way say it's tough to find clothes -- items either fits them in the thighs or the waist but not both. Mind you, I'm talking about women who are probably .5 or .6 on the hip/waist ratio. I get annoyed when shows on TV talk about how curvy women are so attractive -- and then show pictures of women with slim hips and C cups at the most.

Challenge update: Yesterday I took a sample of ham at the grocers before realizing it was cured with sugar -- 4 carbs per 3oz serving. I doubt I ate an entire ounce, but I'm counting 1 carb for that anyway. *sigh*

adwred · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject:

Lottie · Flesh Eater Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 33

Update:

Monday: zero carbs.
Today: <2g (Canadian bacon, eggs)

DaphneDescends · Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:48 am Post subject:

Lottie · Flesh Eater Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 33

Thanks. :0)
Yesterday (Wednesday) was a <1.5g day (eggs)

Adwred, Daphne, I was looking up BMI on the internet and came across this line from Wikipedia about how they changed the standards in 1998:

adwred · Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject:

Hey Lottie,

That is interesting. I still think the BMI is silly. I think a fat % and a monitoring of your wasit:hip and waist:height is much more important in monitoring health than 'weight'. You know?

So how are your weight goals coming along? Are you monitoring the rest of your food, or just eating ad lib? What are your calories/macronutrient ratios like?
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Lottie · Flesh Eater Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 33

I am exactly one pound shy of my week's goal today, so unless I blow things entirely today, I'm counting it as a win. (21.1 is close enough to 21 for government work.)

I'm not paying attention to calories, but it's really hard for me to eat a lot in one sitting when I'm not eating even a bite of vegetables. I doubt I ate more than 1,200 calories a day. As far as food, I ate pork, chicken, fish, turkey, and eggs and drank only water. Does this make me a carnivore for a week?

I think the bacon and ham were a mistake because of the hidden carbs, so I'm going to avoid them next week. (I can pick out foods not cured with a lb of sugar at home, but I can't be sure at restaurants or at friends' houses.) Something interesting: I used to like chicken breast a lot, but this week I prefered dark meat.

adwred · Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject:

Lottie · Flesh Eater Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 33

Thanks. :0)

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