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Raw Beef, Thai Style (Laab Isaan)

 
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Raw Beef, Thai Style (Laab Isaan) Reply with quote

I've been delving into different raw meat recipes. Here's a nice one, very yummy.

Raw Beef, Thai Style (Laab Isaan)



(this is taken from Nourishing Traditions)

1/2 pound beef brisket, frozen 14 days, partially thawed, sliced very thin
2 TBS lemon juice
2 TBS fish sauce
1 tsp red chili powder
1 jalapeno pepper, seeded and thinly sliced
2 green onions, sliced very thin
1/3 cup each cilantro and mint leaves, chopped

Process meat slices briefly in food processor to a consistency somewhat coarser than hamburger. Mix lemon juice, fish sauce, cayenne pepper, green onion, chopped cilantro and mint. Mix well with meat and marinate covered, for several hours. Served mounded on a plate, garnished with cilantro and mint. It says to surround with romaine leaves also, if you think it looks pretty go for it, but remember to throw the lettuce away when you're done! Wink




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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you think the lemon is for flavour or germ killing?
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: Sushi lovers Reply with quote

Ground or sliced thin raw beef
Soy sauce
chopped scallion
optional: ginger, cayenne,
Mix together and eat


ALternately.... wrap meat in pieces of nori to make little dumplings and dip in soy sauce, eat each dumpling with a slice of pickled ginger.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I'm not sure what the intention of the lemon juice is. Does the acidity of the lemon cook the meat a little? It does give it a nice taste.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The acidity of the lemon might kill some pathogens.

I am REALLY interested in this... since my long term goal is to eat raw meat almost exclusively (or at least predominantly). I would be doing it now if it was not for those nasties. Does anyone know if the sauces that are for putting on raw meat have ingredients in them that are suppose to kill pathogens... like vinegar or lemon or whatever?

If you want to improve your health for real... raw meat is the only way to go... gotta include some of it in your diet. Wish I could now. Just too chicken to do so!
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been eating my beef raw for about the last 2 1/2 months. I guess I started around mid March. The first couple times I had to really force myself to eat it because I was so nervous. I cook the outside to take care of anything on the surface then the inside is raw...and I mean RAW. Most of the time the middle is still fairly cool.

The best thing about that is I don't really have to worry about the type of beef I eat, since even the toughest cuts are tender when raw. Beef short ribs are one of my favorites and a perfect example (had it for lunch too). The texture is wonderful, almost like pasta, and it starts breaking down right in your mouth. It's also sweeter than cooked beef too. I can't even eat a rare steak these days, let alone something medium or medium rare (yuck!).
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob21370 wrote:
I can't even eat a rare steak these days, let alone something medium or medium rare (yuck!).


I have the same problem, even rare beef is too cooked for me now. I notice that raw is way cleaner and doesn't "leak" when you cut it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW! You guys ROCK! Hope I can get to where you are with this WOE!
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaleoDeano wrote:
WOW! You guys ROCK! Hope I can get to where you are with this WOE!


It's not that hard to do. I just had to trust Bear knew what he was talking about and went with it. It was very hard the first couple days eating raw meat because as soon as I ate it I kept thinking I was going to get really sick. The first night was the hardest. I was sure I was going to end up in the bathroom all night.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is only beef steak, I haven't tried anything else raw. With the beef steak I also run it by the frying pan or bbq. My kids love it that way, my husband is the only one who flinches...

I have never ordered at a restaurant, have you Rob?
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heather wrote:
That is only beef steak, I haven't tried anything else raw. With the beef steak I also run it by the frying pan or bbq. My kids love it that way, my husband is the only one who flinches...

I have never ordered at a restaurant, have you Rob?


I haven't ordered a steak out yet but my guess is that there's a law that has a minimum temperature for meat. I don't know, but thats my guess. I know that the rare steaks I used to order were never that rare.

Haven't done raw eggs. I can't even eat them sunny side up.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob21370 wrote:
Haven't done raw eggs. I can't even eat them sunny side up.

Rob,

Raw eggs (the yolks only... whites are too slimy and taste funny) are GREAT! I eat them all the time! I love making smoothies with coconut milk and oil... just so I can get my raw egg yolks in. I use brown eggs that are mass produced in Texas (about $0.80/doz at the regular grocery store). I make sure the egg shell is hard, the raw egg looks and smells OK, and the yolk is firm. I have no fear if they pass this examination. I usually put 4-6 egg yolks in a 5 cup smoothie I make in a blender. I will drink this smoothie over 2-3 days, thus getting a couple raw egg yolks everyday that way... plus the coconut oil. Good nutrients and fat.
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I really should have posted this in the recipe section, oh well Roll Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can move this thread over there, April... you are the Moderator of this Forum! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, umm, err. Can you tell this is the first time I have moderated? No worries, I'll get the hang of it...I swear! Laugh
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you leave the meat in thin slices instead of grinding it? And has anyone tried this without the mint?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can always do this without the mint, or add other herbs, lemongrass is nice, even plai nole parsley will work. In Asia this is often made with what is referred to as Vietnamese mint (or coriander) because it tastes a little like both, but is not related to either of these, most Asian stores carry it as rau ram or laksa leaf, I think the Thai call it pak pai.

And yes, you can slice thinly, but the traditional way is very finely minced / ground, it is a matter of texture as well as using tougher parts of meat, and the marinade permeating into the meat.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Dhania!



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