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adwred Bear Disciple


Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 9389
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yuck. Crappy coffee!
_________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Dustyboy Carnivore King

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 714
Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Alright darn it, what do you drink? I really think coffee is like cigars when I first started with the stogies I found that I could smoke the cheap ones or the expensive ones and not be able to tell the difference now my pallet is more refined. I just now started with foldgers. Red, do you know if there are AS in flavoured coffee beans? I have scoured the internet and can't find an answer. _________________ May the spirit of the dead cow be upon you. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 9389
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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I drink an organic coffee called 'Kicking Horse' from British Columbia, here in Canada, but any good-quality (organic) coffee bean that you grind yourself is ideal.
No I don't think there are any sweeteners in flavoured coffee. Just chemical flavourings. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Dustyboy Carnivore King

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 714
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Chemicals hunh? That sounds bad, kinda like the diet coke I am in the process of kicking. _________________ May the spirit of the dead cow be upon you. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I don't recommend them. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Dustyboy Carnivore King

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 714
Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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O.k. pikachu, where are you? how are you doing without the Coke? Don't be afraid to admit you slipped just look at E.! He admits he's gonna slip before it happens. Well I think this is day five, yeah, yeah day five I did not have one Friday morning. I am still getting caffeine through coffee even though Red says its crap I will upgrade my coffee I think. _________________ May the spirit of the dead cow be upon you. |
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Dustyboy Carnivore King

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 714
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Well it is day six and I think I am alone, E. are you still here? (sigh) oh well. I feel great today, I feel like a new man. I just realized that I now have nothing sweet to eat, ever. It is to the point where eggs and even plain ol' water seems to have a sweet taste to them. There is one more day in the seven day challenge but I am not looking back.  _________________ May the spirit of the dead cow be upon you. |
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Carnation Top Carnivore


Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 3586
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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That's great, Dusty! It's a big achievement to finally kick sweet tastes. |
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Dustyboy Carnivore King

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 714
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Carnation, yeah I kicked the sugar free Jello, the whipping cream in a can and I guess I will stop drinking the flavored coffee beans as well, I am not really hooked on them anyway. I don't know maybe I will try and cut out coffee but it has benefits you know. I am still not sure about that one. I have only been drinking it since I quite the Coke so that I could still have some caffeine. Do you do o.k. without it? It helps me before I go to the gym I know.  _________________ May the spirit of the dead cow be upon you. |
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Carnation Top Carnivore


Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 3586
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, I have to say I am so please to hear you've kicked the artificial sweeteners. I know some people use them and are satisfied, but I swear they scare the crap out of me, most of them were "discovered" when some scientist accidentally licked their fingers while working with chemicals designed for other uses.
Sorry, I've never been a coffee drinker. The stuff gives me a killer stomach ache, even decaf. I was, however, a huge iced tea drinker, like nonstop, all through the day, addict. I wanted to end my caffeine addiction, so tried decaf tea, which tasted like sock water, so ended up quitting altogether. I still miss it. But I find as long as my water is ice cold, I'll drink plenty of it. So, I always keep a few jars of it in the fridge.
I honestly think that if the coffee keeps you happy, then for now, you should stay with it. You've made a lot of big changes lately, given up a lot of comfort foods. Give yourself a little while, maybe a few months, of coffee drinking, and then if you want to give it up, have a go at it. Or not. |
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johndela1 Hunter

Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 106
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone read about the shangri la diet?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shangri-La_Diet
The researcher behind this diet has concluded that artificial sweeteners raise our set point and cause us to want to eat more. He claims that eating something that has taste with no calories leaves a void of some sort that our body wants to fill. |
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Erasmus Hunter

Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 142
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Dustyboy wrote: | Well it is day six and I think I am alone, E. are you still here? (sigh) oh well. I feel great today, I feel like a new man. I just realized that I now have nothing sweet to eat, ever. It is to the point where eggs and even plain ol' water seems to have a sweet taste to them. There is one more day in the seven day challenge but I am not looking back.  |
Still here. Occasionally work gets in the way of my posting.
As promised, soda free. Gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta remember to not drink the same volume of coffee as I drink soda. Seems there is a touch more caffeine in coffee.
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Dustyboy Carnivore King

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 714
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| johndela1 wrote: | Anyone read about the shangri la diet?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shangri-La_Diet
The researcher behind this diet has concluded that artificial sweeteners raise our set point and cause us to want to eat more. He claims that eating something that has taste with no calories leaves a void of some sort that our body wants to fill. |
You know the elimination of hunger that Bear speaks about never occured until this week. I could eat or not eat at this point, hunh. I did not realize it until now. That is great.
Hey E. glad to hear you are sticking in there, it is almost friday buddy. Are you gonna keep on or will you return to you diet drinking ways? _________________ May the spirit of the dead cow be upon you. |
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Erasmus Hunter

Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 142
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hey E. glad to hear you are sticking in there, it is almost friday buddy. Are you gonna keep on or will you return to you diet drinking ways? |
I'm computer support (all of it) for a medium sized accounting firm. What is this "Friday" thing you speak of?
-E |
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Glennart Hunter


Joined: 23 Feb 2008 Posts: 135
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm computer support (all of it) for a medium sized accounting firm. What is this "Friday" thing you speak of?
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I think Friday is that naitive guy in Robinson Crusoe... _________________ "Train hard, eat lard." |
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Dustyboy Carnivore King

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 714
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Well here we are day seven, just me and E. as far as I can tell. I am dumping my left over diet coke. I bought some organic coffee beans and I ground them myself this morning and guess what? It taste just like Folgers! Oh well it is fun grinding the beans anyway. I added a little bit of heavy cream to it, I eliminated dairy from my diet, except for butter, for a while for the fun of it I guess but I am putting it back little by little. _________________ May the spirit of the dead cow be upon you. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 9389
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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You're kidding me! Are your taste buds broken??? _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Dustyboy Carnivore King

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently. It sucks to be me. _________________ May the spirit of the dead cow be upon you. |
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Erasmus Hunter

Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 142
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Brain... gone.... adding 1 diet pepsi day and good the rest of the time, however many days it was...
-E |
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Erasmus Hunter

Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 142
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Adding 1 good day and 1 pepsi day. Where'd ya go, Dusty? |
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pikachu Virgin Viper

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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:06 am Post subject: |
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I'm back. I went on vacation with my mother in law and had standard american diet the whole time. Ick.
I have a hard time on zero carb, and feel deprived a lot. I love Diet Coke so much that it makes me feel even more deprived to not have that too. It makes me sad to think about giving it up.
I know that it's not good for me at all, but I can't seem to make myself stop. I keep telling myself at least it's not crack or gambling or some other addiction.
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Carnation Top Carnivore


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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Pikachu, don't give up hope. I am really not a fan of artificial sweeteners, never have or will ingest them, and won't let my family either. However, if having your diet coke helps make the transition to zero carb easier, then have it. You can always cut it out later, once you've adjusted to your new WOE. Some people can go cold turkey, some people take baby steps, neither way is wrong.  |
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Dustyboy Carnivore King

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 714
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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I am around I just got a little sick for a couple of days (not diet Coke related I assure you) I am off the hard stuff and doing well. I have adapted to coffee quite well. Should I quit the coffee? Probably, but that is a challenge for another time you gotta eat and drink something and right now coffee is doing the job.  _________________ May the spirit of the dead cow be upon you. |
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SandyDown Top Cat

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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey, for the last couple of days, by complete chance went with a friend for a coffee first thing in the morning ( added 2T of cream) , then had another a couple of hours later (mid-morning) am talking decaf coffee second time... then had lunch and etc.... i didn't even remember i didn't have diet coke till this afternoon which is almost 2 days after, aint that weird... Ok seems I was going for the diet coke because of the caffeine, so because I had some caffeine in the first cup in the morning, I didn't crave the diet coke at all....what do you guys think? what is worse, drinking diet coke or caffeinated coffee first thing? I know its ideal to quit both, but what is the worst of two evils? |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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My guess would be the coke. It eats away at your teeth or so I've heard.
You have to stay away long enough to experience Nirvana, which is Freedom from the addictions of Man
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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OMG coffee, hands down. Depending on who you believe, coffee at least has some health benefits, but I haven't heard anyone singing the praises of diet coke. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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phoenix7 Hunter


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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Personally I would say ditch the coke and try to get rid of the coffee by substituting with green tea. Just my 2 cents .
Besides you live in the UK right, tea is everywhere .
To be honest, I like having my coffee (especially in the morning) and some dark chocolate flavored with coffee during the day, so I understand completely .
When I've had a good nights' rest, there is less craving for cafein, well duh . |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I personally wouldn't suggest replacing with tea, since tea is much higher in phenols and highly reactive, but that's just me. And we're talking about health here, too - not just appetite suppression. If you're going to give up coffee, then just give up coffee. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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phoenix7 Hunter


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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| adwred wrote: | I personally wouldn't suggest replacing with tea, since tea is much higher in phenols and highly reactive, but that's just me. And we're talking about health here, too - not just appetite suppression. If you're going to give up coffee, then just give up coffee. |
Oops, sorry forgot about that . Why did you mention AS? |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | OMG coffee, hands down. Depending on who you believe, coffee at least has some health benefits, but I haven't heard anyone singing the praises of diet coke |
Her question was which is worser. I just did the same thing thank you edit Gods. Or am I all upside down again. I'm not even drinking yet!
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