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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Glennart Hunter


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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Gallstones are caused by low fat diets.
The main stimulant for the gallbladder is fat. Eat little or no fat and you produce very little bile. Your gallbladder may get impacted with stones due to the lack of flowing bile.
When you start eating more fat the liver starts producing more bile (one of the reasons cholesterol levels may rise from eating fat is because it's a component of bile) and the gallbladder gets more stimulation, the stones that have been sitting in there for several years during low fat eating then get pushed out and may cause discomfort, pain and get stuck.
Today's lesson: Eating lard everyday keeps the gallstones away. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Glennart wrote: |
Today's lesson: Eating lard everyday keeps the gallstones away. |
How d'ya like them apples? _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Puma Hunter


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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| My dad recently got his gall bladder removed, and on advice from his doctor, he's eating even LESS fat now...not like he was getting any before. |
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Glennart Hunter


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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Here ya go adwred!
Vitamins!  |
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kayleigh Hunter

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Carne Vorare Top Cat

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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| Glennart wrote: | Gallstones are caused by low fat diets.
The main stimulant for the gallbladder is fat. Eat little or no fat and you produce very little bile. Your gallbladder may get impacted with stones due to the lack of flowing bile.
Today's lesson: Eating lard everyday keeps the gallstones away. |
this was only a theory of mine, looks like theres evidence somewhere to prove it!! man, ive never been around so many ppl who knew so much bout proper nutrition before.
its like walking into Disneyworld or sumthin i swear. |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Carne wrote:
| Quote: | | its like walking into Disneyworld or sumthin i swear. |
No swearing around the kiddies alright.  |
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Carne Vorare Top Cat

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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Avalon wrote: | Carne wrote:
| Quote: | | its like walking into Disneyworld or sumthin i swear. |
No swearing around the kiddies alright.  |
:laughs:
oh, allrite  |
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opticon107 Top Cat

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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| Puma wrote: | | My dad recently got his gall bladder removed, and on advice from his doctor, he's eating even LESS fat now...not like he was getting any before. |
If you get your gallbladder removed, do you have to eat a low fat diet? I went to the gastro today and they think there is something wrong with my gallbladder and I'm getting an ultrasound on it tomorrow. I'm worried that if I have to get it removed, I dont want to be forced to eat low fat. _________________ [url=http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/w4OQbrr/]
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Puma Hunter


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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: |
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My dad says he can eat more than his doctor said he could. The liver does produce bile, so you would probably have to eat less or more frequently or something...I don't know.  |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Glennart Hunter


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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| opticon107 wrote: | | Puma wrote: | | My dad recently got his gall bladder removed, and on advice from his doctor, he's eating even LESS fat now...not like he was getting any before. |
If you get your gallbladder removed, do you have to eat a low fat diet? I went to the gastro today and they think there is something wrong with my gallbladder and I'm getting an ultrasound on it tomorrow. I'm worried that if I have to get it removed, I dont want to be forced to eat low fat. |
I know several people who are doing LC without a gallbladder. Often they just need a little more time to adapt. Eating smaller amounts several times per day seems to work. Sipping cream.  _________________ "Train hard, eat lard." |
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opticon107 Top Cat

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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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thanks everyone...whew I was afraid I would have to do ornish or something well i dont even know if its my gallbladder thats giving me issues or not, so hopefully its not the case.
Right now my family is giving me crap about the high fat diet anyway and it doesnt help that I've gained weight (because of other issues I was having with overeating because of the stomach problems & PB), but now they are like..see I told you so!! It's so irritating! _________________ [url=http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/w4OQbrr/]
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Carne Vorare Top Cat

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| ornish effing sucks |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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I think he's OK  |
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Carne Vorare Top Cat

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: |
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everyone's entitled to their own opinion
but he has a most UN-remarkable physical presence, not to mention nutrition theories that leak prodigiously at the seams..imho |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah and The Bear's a sweetie too
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Carne Vorare Top Cat

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: |
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yeah. just look @ them.
Bear resembles an-ex marine *a good thing* straight out of the movies facially
..and the Ornish guy makes me look like freakin' Captain America
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RedTulipMoon Top Cat


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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opticon
you CAN eat HIGH fat and have no gall bladder. I got mine removed 8 yrs ago and i aim for 80% fat! lol  _________________ Karen
aka JandLsMom
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meatISawesome369 Hunter


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Bear's got a broad facial structure and neck. I wonder if it was that way before years of low carb? |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Is it just me, or do they both have enormous ears??
I guess ear-size must not be related to diet.  _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Carne Vorare Top Cat

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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| adwred wrote: | Is it just me, or do they both have enormous ears??
I guess ear-size must not be related to diet.  |
dunno bout the Ornish guy.
*hey! dats the name of sum creature out of LOTR.."the Ornish"*
<evil smile>
but Bear's got efin-esque ears [:
wonder if he ever check in on us..??! |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:20 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure he can feel you sucking his dick all the way in Oz, Carne.  _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Carnation Top Carnivore


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LisaD Virgin Viper


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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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This thread's old, but I gotta tell ya, Ornish don't look like that NOW. That's an old picture.
I had my gallbladder removed, and I can eat plenty of fat....just have to not eat a HUGE amount at one time. I eat 3 meals a day and plenty of fat each meal, no problems. |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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I don't look like I used to either  |
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Glennart Hunter


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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: |
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A think I felt my gallbladder yesterday. I ate a LOAD of butter and two fatty steaks for dinner. Probably 200 g fat in that meal. A while after my meal I could feel this stabbing type of pain just under my right ribcage. It was nothing too serious and went away after a few minutes. Afterwards I felt fine and did not get any digestive problems at all. _________________ "Train hard, eat lard." |
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ReddyMcMeaty The Boss

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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| Avalon wrote: | I don't look like I used to either  |
I'm not sure whether to laugh or sympathize? I can make this statement as well Maybe not to the same degree. _________________ "Man lives on one quarter of what he eats. On the other three quarters lives his doctor." |
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Vesna Virgin Viper

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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Did anyone catch the multi-part Ornish interview on Jimmy Moore's podcast? Ornish just drove me crazy all the way through. He had no information or explanation for anything, no account of the mechanisms of how anything works. Just kept repeating his "studies" that supposedly show his ridiculous eating plan to be the best thing since sliced bread. Wait a minute -- it really is the best thing since sliced bread, because that's one of the worst dietary developments you can name!
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