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steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

Ok here's an update. I just ate a small piece of liver yesterday which was the first piece I had in about 5 days. Well I woke up in the middle of the night with diarrehea and I am sure it was from the liver because this happened the last time I ate liver. I am not sure if it was from too much vitamin A or not but liver now gives me diarrehea and it never did that when I first started eating it. One of the symptoms of vitamin A toxicity is diarrehea so I think I reacheed my threshold for vitimin A. Bigsea, if you are continueing to eat liver everyday let me know how you feel when you are about 2 weeks in. This is when I started experiencing these symtoms and they only happen when I eat liver even in small amounts. I am almost sure it is from too much vitamin A but I want to be sure.

Overall my sex drive has increased slightly but it is not to the point where I would like it to be.

bigsea · Hunter Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 195

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steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

I take no vitamins and I eat about 3-4 lbs of beef per day. i eat about 65-75% of calories as fat. What ever I eat usually has nothing on it- no salt or seasoning. Sometimes I eat eggs in the morning but not as much anymore because I get pimples on my legs from them. For dinner I usually will have some salad with oil and vinegar on it because my parents make me eat it but I don't think I go over 15 g carbs per day (15 g is an overestimate).

Unless there is something else in the liver that gives me diarrhea I think the problem is from too much vitamin A. I eat the liver rare and only sear the outside in the frying pan. The last couple of times I have tried eating it I got the same symptoms. This never happened when I first sarted to eat liver everyday. Only after 2 weeks in. It makes sense though because in the last few weeks my body has gotten over 200,000 IU of vitamin A. Your body can only store so much. Plus I have been working outside eveyday in the hot sun which means I have been getting lots of vitamin D. Your body needs less Vitamin A when you get enough vitamin D from what I've read.

bigsea · Hunter Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 195

its most likely the greens you're eating. when i eat all meat for long periods without eating any fiber or that shit then i have a salad when out with friends your body doesnt know how to digest the nasty vegetable fiber. try taking the salads out and your bowels will thank ya

adwred · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject:

I don't think, from the sounds of it, that the salads are a new addition, Bigsea. Plus, a small salad of greens would probably not cause diarrhea. If so, there is a bit of a problem going on there. It's not like he's eating a mountain of corn and raw spinach, here. I think the liver is probably the culprit, if he notices a definite correlation.
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steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

It is definetly without a doubt the liver. I have been eating salad for years. Now I try to avoid it and only eat it when I have to. Salad doesn't bother me anyway. When I was at college I ate nothing but 100% all beef (0 carb) for about 3 1/2 months. When I came home I reintroduceed the salad because my parents make me eat it and I didn't notice much of a difference. I agree with you though that it is better not to eat it but it is definetly not the cause of diarrhea. It was the liver. I know this because hours after I eat it I will have diarrhea and when I don't eat it I don't have diarrhea.

By the way I never had any problems with my intestines or digestion even when I was eating high carb. No ulcers, acid reflux, IBS, colitis, constipation ect. The reason I do this diet is becuase of the energy I have and the way it makes me feel. Not to mention that my skin is clear my emotions are stable and I notice new things getting better all the time. Plus a bunch of other things but I don't feel like posting them. Really the one major problem I have now is with my sex drive like your saying. Its not a major dysfunction but it is definetly lower than before and I want find out the reason. I continue to read everyday and search for the cause. Eventually I will find the reason.

adwred · Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject:

OK, so getting back to the subject of this thread, although it might make a slight difference, it doesn't sound like liver is really making huge strides for anyone in the libido department. I suppose it's not necessarily a vitamin defficiency that is causing the problem?

Anyone tried zinc foods? Oysters, anyone? Wink

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steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

I doubt it. Liver has 1.4mg of iron per ounce. Beef sirloin has about .4, but I only ate about 1/4 lb so that would mean I ate 5.6 mg just from liver. Since I eat about 4 lbs of meat everyday I get 25.6 mg total from meat. I highly doubt that the 5.6 mg is going to have a significant impact.

I am telling you it is from too much vitamin A. I could be wrong but I need somone to eat as much liver as I did to see if it has the same effect on them. Either way, I will not eat liver for a while becuase it gives me diarrhea.

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I agree, it is the Vitamin A. I get toxic effects very quickly, from Liver, or anything else that is high in A. I think some people are much more sensitive to it than others.

One way you could check, is just to take a pure Vitamin A supplement, and see if it causes the same symptoms.

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steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

No I have not tried oysters. Beef has more than enough zinc so I really don't think the problem is not getting enough zinc. I am starting to believe that this problem is not caused from a low vitamin or mineral intake even though I was not getting the amount of vitamin A that I should have been getting. I think it has more to do with hormonal changes that occur when you eliminate carbs from the diet. Like I said before I stopped weight lifting at the same time I started doing 0 carb so maybe I just am not used to the changes yet. I will start to weight lift more often now and will see if I get any change in sex drive.

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found the answer to the problem

http://activenocarber.myfreeforum.org/sutra60934.php#60934
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steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

nope I tried going raw once before. For about 1 month. Did nothing but make me occasionally sick. Besides that I cook my meat rare so there is minimal oxidation. I think it has to do with eating grain fed meat and not grass fed. I am experimenting with this now and have gotten on and off great results. I just need to play around with it more. I will keep you updated.