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bigsea · Hunter Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 195

yo where did my horniness go. ive been sticking with this all meat thing for a pretty long while now, ive been strictly animal foods for a few months now, eating only meat, eggs, fish, some dairy, milk, and the occasional slip-up when i go out eating with friends and other scenarios like that.
i'll type that im a teenager, because this factors in alot too.
alright here i go embarassing myself, basically my sex drive is disappearing, or should i say its been gone now for awhile.
i can still get hard and i can still feel pleasure but its seriously lacking, especially since im a teenager and should be horny as hell every moment.
this is so personal, i have no idea where to go for help.
im not sure what penis doctors are called, or where to go see a doctor that specializes in teenage male development.

what blows my mind and drives me crazy is that im eating so much meat, with tons and tons of zinc (the sex vitamin) so my drive should be thru the roof, im eating so much nutritious meats.

what also doesn't make sense is the fact that most of you guys are happily off in your horny land constantly raging hard and im sitting in the back limp.
i don't know whats going on with my body but im now getting scared because its just been too damn long with this shit.
so there i go blowing my cover and admitting my sex drive faults, anyone have advice i miss the point of life!!!!

cicley · Flesh Eater Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Posts: 30

I notice on this diet that if I don't eat at least six raw eggs a day, my sex drive is cut in half.
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steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

I had the same problem but I think I figuree out what is wrong. I believe I was not consumeing enough vitamin A. I fact I know I wasn't and here's why. If you look at the vitamin A content in most meat it is 0 according to nutriondata.com unless you are eating grass fed beef but I don't even think there is a high amount in that. Even if you are eating eggs every day it is still not enough you would need to eat 12 eggs daily to get the RDA and I don't even think the RDA is adiquate. Not only that but high protein diets even though high fat require use up vitamin A stores very quickly.

Just think 50 thousand years ago when we hunted we ate the whole animal including the liver which is the highest source of vitamin A on the planet. I alomst never ate liver and barely ate eggs. 5 was the most I would eat on any given day. After a while my sex drive was low although I could still get it up easily it was lower than before. Also I started to get pimples and bumps on my legs and I could not figure out what was causing them. At first I though it was caused from eating too much chicken because of its high omega 6 to omega3 ratio. It wasn't because I then start to eat only fat from beef ans although it improved it didi not go away. I was also getting sick very often having frequent colds. About a week ago I started eating liver daily (about 1/4- 1/2 lb). I could feel my cold going away quicker and the pimples on my thigh were going away. I think the pimples were keritsation which occurs in vitamin A deficiency. It has only been a week and I have not noticed any big imporvement in my sex drive but I think it will take about a month to see results in that domain for the fact that I probably am still deficient. I have also been noticing some other results with my body all happening within a week of consuming liver.

You should try it out. It let us know if it has any effecct because I am going thorough the same thing right now man. I am alomost sure this is the problem. I am going to eat liver every day for a month and then I will cut down to eating it 2 times per week.

You should also definetly read this article on Vitamin A I found. In fact anyone reading this post should read it. Very interesting. It talks about how vitamin A is needed for testosterone production. From what I heard higher testosterone means higher sex drive.
http://www.westonaprice.org/men/vitaminabodybuilding.html
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steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

By the way I owe Galeron an apology for saying what I said about vitamin A in his post a few weeks ago. Sorry man sometimes I get get confused and think I know what s best for other people. I was just trying to help. I apoligize

SaintAngerBH · Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject:

I'm not consuming any vitamin A and my sex drive is through the roof.

paleogirl · Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject:

Wow Steve, that's interesting. There was another thread about this a while ago, plus I started one a few weeks back asking if anyone had noticed an INCREASED drive, on raw animal foods in my case but on zero carb in general also. It seemed that most of the women said they had, but some of the guys said 'er no, quite the opposite...' I'm so glad you figured it out.

Maybe us girls must require something other than Vitamin A for our libidos? Maybe fat? That would make sense to me, seeing as women who are under nourished / anorexics stop menstruating.
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steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

By the way I am taking a guess about this becasue it makes the most sense. I have not noticed a change in sex drive yet because I only started eating more liver a week ago. I think it takes a while for certain hormones like testosterone to start to have an effect on the body though. I have some friends and knew many people that took steroids and they told me that the effects don't kick in until after 3-4 weeks of taking them so I figure that it applies the same way if you are to raise testosterone naturally.

By the way I also noticed something else from eating liver throughout this week. I have no body odor under my arm pits at all. I mean nothing. Even when I sweat. I did not shower for close to 2 days and I can put my nose right up to my arm pit and not smell a thing. By the way this is without using deorderant. I am sure this is because I got more vitamin A in my diet for the fact that it is essential for certain functions of the skin. I am 100% sure that it is from eating liver and I have only been doing it for 6 days now. I expect more benifits to come such as increase in sex drive.

paleogirl · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:10 am Post subject:

Weird about the BO! Shock

So how have you been eating the liver? Just cutting it up small and swallowing like a pill, or is it actually tasty? Do you have it raw?

Also, a point I forgot to make before - some people were saying that their sex drive increased with a few carbs added to their diet Liver has carbs, so that could also help, if you were a carb-sex type, so to speak. Laugh

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bigsea · Hunter Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 195

wow thanks for posting that bit about the BO that is fascinating. i picked up a bunch of liver, wasn't sure what the best kind was.
i hear you want to get calfs liver as it has no toxins but who knows if liver has toxins anyway.
steve, how are you eating the liver and are you getting regular beef liver from the supermarket or calfs liver from more natural marketplaces?

cygnus · Top Cat Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 273

You'd think with all that cholesterol you are eating, you'd be making tons of hormones..

Ya'll looking for a nice natural deoderant? Try magnesium oxide powder. Just take a makeup brush and apply..

Dirt cheap. 2 lbs of this stuff is around $11

Modern_Caveman · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:17 am Post subject: Re: Reply

ReddyMcMeaty · The Boss Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 5776

I think the bumps on the body might be keratosis pilaris, not actually acne. there is supposedly "no cure" but people have found their own relief by eliminating trigger foods, and i've also hearnd it can br related to vitamin A. This is also the term for those dry bumps that are really common on people's upper arms and the backs of their thighs.
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Avalon · Top Carnivore Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 3326

Cooked Liver has always been on my top most hated list of all time, until, I tried it raw. Calfs liver with a little soy and a spinkle of italin seasonings I really like. Shock

steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

I get all my food from the suupermarket and none of it is organic usually. I have been buying calf liver in about 1/2 lb pakages at the super market. I just throw it in the frying pan and cook only the outside. If you overcook the liver it tastes very dry and is not too tastey. If you get a fresh piece and don't over cook it the liver will actually taste kinda sweet. Liver has a very funky taste and is different from anything. I am starting to get used to eating eat and actually look foward to eating it.

By the way SaintAngerBH, as I mentioned in another post, how long have you been eating this way without vitamin A? Symtoms of vitamin A deficiency don't show up for many months. Are you consuming a multi vitamin. I thought I could get awy without eating liver frequently either because of what Bear said. He only consumes liver every few months in very small quantity because of the sugar found in it. I found out after many months that I have to eat it more often. Maybe that is why Bear got cancer in his throat. Vitamin A is needed for immuntity and to regenerate the respiratory lining in the lungs and throat. I have also read something about vitamin A and cancer some where too. Bear also seems cranky sometimes and a symtom of vitamin A deficiency is irratibliity (come to think of it I was very irratible sometimes). This is just a thought. Bear would be pissed if he heard this. Sorry Bear not trying to offend you.

Here is an another update. As of this morning I noticed that hair is starting to regrow on my thigh. It was bald with many of the rough pimples. The hair war also short and stubby. I wish I had a camera so I could show before and after pics. This is truly amasing to me.

SaintAngerBH · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: reply

adwred · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject:

The libido issue seems to be a divided one. Zero-carb hasn't dampened my sex drive, but it hasn't increased it, either. Bigsea, do you find your libido increases when you eat carbs, or are you concerned because your sex drive is low and you're upset because zero-carb isn't fixing it? Maybe your problem is related to something else and you have to do a little experimentation to find out what's causing the issue. If you're finding it's directly related to zero-carb, maybe adding some more carbs, like more raw milk and some liver will help. It could be mental - maybe if you found the right person to lust after, it would come rushing back full force? Yup

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barb0324 · Guest

Does the vitamin A have to come from liver? What about supplements, will it have the same effect? Doesn't cod liver oil have lots of Vitamin A?

ReddyMcMeaty · The Boss Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 5776

Maybe now that your tongue isn't white you'll find someone who causes the libido to come rush back full force...Red careful about recommending milk!! Laugh

Just teasing! I really hope you can find your answer Bigsea, I am sure this is frustrating and worrying to you.
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steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

You can get vitamin A from a variety of sources however I believe that liver is the most potent source. Not only that but liver contains a large amount of other minerals and vitamins. Search it on nutriondata.com to see what I am talking about. Cod liver oil usually has the vitamin A removed and then is replaced with synthetic vitamin A during processeing although you can find some brands that replace with natural vitamin A. you can only get true vitamin A from animal sources. Beta carontine although will prevent vitamin A deficiency is crap. It is found in mostly orange vegtables and grains. You would have to really up your carb consumption to get enough beta cartonine to convert to vitamin A in order to prevent deficiency. You need 6 IU of beat carotine to equal 1 unit of vitamin A (retinol) and that is givng the benifit of the doubt. I have read an article that says 22 IU equal 1 IU of vitamin A.

bigsea · Hunter Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 195

adwred, uhh im positive its from my diet because i am a very confident, strong person and i have no problems getting any.
reddy, hahhah

shit man i was so excited to make liver a regular part of my diet, eating it daily if not multiple times per day, so i get home and sear the outside of the liver and nearly gag on myself like 5 times.
its strange how something so nutritious for us tastes like shit to me.
i have no clue how in the hell im going to get myself to stomach this.
i was thinking if the vitamin A in butter is just as effective, as i could eat poudns of butter everyday to my pleasure, but i have a feeling the vitamin A in liver is just a better source, period, plus all the other good shit in liver.

man, this sucks ass. there is no compromise with me, im going to do this one way or another, i WILL find a way to stomach eating liver daily.
i gotta start out slow, maybe one or 2 pieces and move up until i can eat a reasonable size serving.

there is no doubt in my mind liver is one of the most nuritious foods for us and the things going on with Steve's body fascinates me, this is real shit going on and i really believe the liver is healing your body Steve and you are only in the beginning of noticing extraordinary things happening to your body.
i remember hearing about some brazilian basketball player who is like the fastest basketball player, hes like a bullet, and he eats raw liver everyday

there really is no way to get around the taste for me, im not going to cook up onions with it or dash a bunch of salt on it, i'm just going to deal with it and eventually it will grow on me

steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

Liver does kinda suck when you first try it, but you don't need to eat that much of it to get alot of Vitamin A. 1/4 lb per day is more than enough. 1 0z gives you 210% of your RDA.

I am going for a saturation dose becuase I know my body is in need of rthe vitamin. I am eating about 1/4-1/2lb of semi raw calf liver a day for about 1 month. Then I will cut down to about twice a week.

I personally think calf liver tastes better then beef liver because it is more tender. Try out calf liver if you have not done so already.

copychick · Carnivore King Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 948

is chicken liver no good then? i kinda like that. still, i have to put some oregano on it.

barb0324 · Guest

Germans cook pork liver "sour", they slice it in thin strips, brown in butter or oil, add some sliced onions, sautee until browned, add spices, esp. marjoram, then add some vinegar, and get the brown stuff off the bottom of pot, add some sour cream at the end.

Will see if I can find a recipe, do you think the Vitamin A is heat sensitive, if not, this way of cooking the liver is delicious and covers the taste for those who don't care for it. I love Saure Leber!

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http://translate.google.com/trans...26rls%3DHPIB,HPIB:2005-21,HPIB:en

checking if this link works - okay, translation is terrible, if anyone is interested, I will tranlate and put in recipes. It actually says it's important to brown the liver very fast, and leave it pink inside, or it gets hard. I actually look forward to making this, yum!

SaintAngerBH · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject:

steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

WHo said anything about eating liver several timaes a day. I am only going to eat liver once a day for about 3- 4 weeeks and then I will cut down to about twice a week. There are some articles on westonaprice.org that talk about the overdose of vitamin A and one of the articles says that in order to to reach toxicity you would have to eat something like 100,000 IU per day for many months to reach this. Besides you are more likely to reach toxicity with synthetic vitamin A than getting it from liver.

steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

I found this article about maganese wich is an essential trace mineral. One of the things that it talks about is that low maganese levels cause low libido. Animal foods are very low in maganese so maybe this may be a factor also. After eating liver for a couple more weeks I am going to try and introduce some foods that are high in maganese such as mussels or certain low carb vegtables like spinach. I want totest different food s one at a time so I know if the problem is from low vitamin A, low maganese, both or neither.

I doubt low maganese is the reason but I am just speculating.

http://www.ndri.com/article/manga...e_fertility_reproduction-292.html

steve198329 · Hunter Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 110

Disregard my last post. I found another link that states "At low manganese intake levels, manganese bioavailability is enhanced by ascorbic acid and by meat-containing diets but is inhibited by some dietary fibre sources." I think it is extrememly hard to be deficient in this nutrient.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/p..._sup-appui/manganese/index_e.html

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Try throwing back 6-12 raw oysters every once in awhile. They are VERY rich in magnesium, manganese, and zinc, which are very important for male hormone production

bigsea · Hunter Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 195

how much liver would you have to eat to go over the 100,000 IU a day and become toxic? would it be safe to consume 1/2lb - 1lb of liver a day, everyday? if thats too much how about 1/4lb- 1/2 lb? im curious