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Scout Finch Meat Devil


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Ovared, I can't believe how many folks you are inspiring. I had eggs (with bacon, sorry) as my "fast" meal at 5 p.m. today. Maybe I'll just stick with eggs until you guys are done, in "solidarity."
I hope Ovalon is hanging in there! Looks like Peter of Ovanois is joining you. 
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Ovalon is jumping ship. Sorry. Very happy about the weight loss though. But now I must follow a different path. The Path of Two Day Food Rotation. Never would have thought of this if it weren't for Ovared But Ovospeed to you Scout! BACON!!! |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think Barb's on board, too, so she can replace you Xeta.
As for me, I've eaten so many eggs this week, I'm starting to feel like I'm turning into one. But with boobs. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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BlackLabelSimian Meat Devil


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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The Eggolution continues...  _________________ "Change. Nothin' stays the same. Unchained...And ya hit the ground runnin'."
"In this house of doom ain't no one gets out alive." |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Well, today's the last day of the first week of my challenge. 9.5 lbs lost so far. It's working so well that I've decided to definitely take it to 2 weeks. If I can, why not, yes?
Although, by a week today, I might be dead of starvation because I can't bring myself to eat anymore fucking eggs.
Any suggestions for a first non-egg meal are welcome. I'm going to start fantasizing about it already. I'm thinking sashimi at a sushi restaurant, maybe, because I'll need a night out by the time I'm done all this. I'd be sure to order some flying fish caviar, to pay hommage to the theme of the prior two weeks.  _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Scout Finch Meat Devil


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Well, today's the last day of the first week of my challenge. 9.5 lbs lost so far. It's working so well that I've decided to definitely take it to 2 weeks. If I can, why not, yes? |
This kind of weight loss has to be incredibly motivating.
I wouldn't rule out getting below 137# just yet. You can take it one day, one week at a time, but how tall are you? 5'4, 5'5? I think you could get down to 130# if you were strict. The key is what you think you can maintain over the long haul.
Keep going, ovared! I feel very privileged to be witnessing this great success you have had!
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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This kind of weight loss has to be incredibly motivating. |
You're telling me!
| Quote: | | I wouldn't rule out getting below 137# just yet. You can take it one day, one week at a time, but how tall are you? 5'4, 5'5? I think you could get down to 130# if you were strict. The key is what you think you can maintain over the long haul. |
Hmm. Maybe it's just a mental barrier I have. I do feel that I should be able to get below that weight. Obviously I should at my height (you were correct - 5'4"). I was definitely not at my ultimate goal when I was 137#. I still had significant fat stores (in the usual places - thighs, love handles, etc.). I just couldn't seem to move the weight below that point. Although I didn't think I could lose 10 lbs in a week, either, so who knows. Maybe things have changed and will continue to change after I figure out the culprit in my diet that was sabotaging my efforts. Maybe there are multiple culprits... I fucking hope not. You know what? I would gladly eat nothing but eggs until I reach goal, if I had to. If it means finally freeing myself of my fat, I would eat eggs for a long long time.
My ultimate plan is to get to goal and then maintain it with regular zero-carb. Zero carb seems to be great for maintenance purposes, so that would be a really excellent long-term outcome for me.
| Quote: | Keep going, ovared! I feel very privileged to be witnessing this great success you have had!
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The support I've been getting from you guys is seriously as nice as the weight loss! I'm not sure I'd still be doing so well on this if it hadn't been for all the positive reinforcement. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Scout Finch Meat Devil


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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For the last of it, you might be looking at weight training. Pumping iron really does burn it up and can do so fairly quickly. Not a lot - a couple of times a week for 30-40 minutes would probably do it in maintenance.
But if you can get to 140 or 137 with this plan, you can play around with activity and see what is manageable over the long haul as well. I mean, shit, I'm a size 2 or a 4 depending on the brand, and I'm 5'6. I think without any exercise I'd be up to a 6 or an 8, which would still be fine, but it's the exercise that can really "compact" everything after you get the food issues down.
Interesting point about food sensitivities and stalls. It's true that for most of us on M/E, we have very limited menus - I know I do - so we are automatically excluding lots of foods that may trigger weird metabolic or systemic reactions, perhaps not even just the carby stuff is doing it. And just by decreasing the numbers and kinds of foods, you are limiting choices, thereby calories. As you can see with the Ova Diet. I think, like you, I'd be kinda gaggy doing it for a while too. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah - I"ve actually been doing some HIIT and HIT lifting pretty regularly over the last few months, but could stand to up the ante. I started doing it back when I found that zero-carb just wasn't enough to get the weight moving. Even with the exercise, I haven't had much success, although, I find my stamina and lung capacity are way way better now, which is enough of a benefit to keep going. I'm not as dedicated to it as I should be (if I were more dedicated, I probably would have lost a couple of pounds just from the exercise alone), but adopting more activity isn't completely foreign to me, so I will definitely include it in my maintenance plan. I haven't been working out this week though. The idea of the egg challenge, IF and working out hard combined was just too much for me.
My very very favourite form of exercise is rock climbing but I haven't done it in ages - I will start this up again if I can find a gym closer to my new digs. Since you need a partner, it's also been hard because Squeeze has been going through a really unhealthy "Doritos, pizza and big late-night bowls of sugary cereal" phase and rock climbing is probably about as appealing right now, to him, as having his testicles put through a meat grinder. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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BlackLabelSimian Meat Devil


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Ouch.
Just for the record...Had bacon, eggs and butter for lunch today. lol _________________ "Change. Nothin' stays the same. Unchained...And ya hit the ground runnin'."
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Day 7:
Calories: 878
Fat: 61g
Sat: 21g
Poly: 8g
Mono: 23g
Carbs: 9g
Fiber: 0g
Protein: 69g _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 3326
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Good morning all! First post of the day and of course my first thought are about food and weight loss
Adwred, can you break that 878 down for us into your meals, coffee etc. Are you counting the butter? How many eggs did you have? How much coffee? |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Sure.
I count everything in fitday (except hot sauce and salt) so all of the below has been plugged in.
Yesterday, I had 2 instant coffees and 2 cups of tea, throughout the day.
Brunch was 5 eggs, scrambled in just over a teaspoon of butter.
Dinner was 6 eggs, soft-boiled, no butter.
Most days are similar to this. Sometimes I have a bit more coffee and/or tea. Sometimes I have only 5 eggs for dins. Sometimes nothing. But most days follow this pattern. On the days when I've had extra calories, I'm having 2 or 3 hard boiled eggs at night as a snack. I don't often feel the need for that, though. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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siouxcountry Virgin Viper


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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd be starving eating twice that amount. So what was exactly your diet before this challenge? 8.5 pounds is alot of weight to lose in one week. Congrats on your success! |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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My diet just prior to this was all meat and water, with salt and limited seasonings. Way more calories but still zero carb. And thanks! _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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OK, decided to trial a splenda today. Had one packet in an iced instant coffee. Mistake! Was starving and irritable less than 3 hours later. Ended up having 2 extra eggs with dinner as a result. Splenda will not be on my plan from this point on. There's one thing I can cross off my list.
Day 8:
Calories: 1110
Fat: 77 g
Sat: 26 g
Poly: 10 g
Mono: 29 g
Carbs: 11 g
Fiber: 0 g
Protein: 88 g _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Good! Splenda is Satan spelled on another planet!
What about xylitol, though it's been around for ages, I only learned of it last week and it's supposed to be good for teeth! Quick search link:
http://www.xlear.com/xylosweet/articles/net-carbs.aspx
I thought I was eating more than you before, I didn't know you were eating two- 5 or 6 egg meals. I was having 7 eggs! No wonder I nearly ordered a pizza from emergency  |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:55 am Post subject: |
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Some days I've just been having one meal. But generally two. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Boondawgle Pack Member


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Avalon wrote: | Good! Splenda is Satan spelled on another planet!
What about xylitol, though it's been around for ages, I only learned of it last week and it's supposed to be good for teeth! Quick search link:
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Mary Eades finds it "among the least offensive of the sugar alcohols." For my part, adding sugar substitues to things just activates my sweet tooth and makes me crave ice cream. Lots of ice cream.
(from http://www.proteinpower.com/drmd_blog/?p=142)
| Quote: | | Xylitol: A sugar alcohol, derived from xylan (a complex sugar chain, sort of like cellulose, which is found in corncobs, straw, almond shells, and birch bark) which is then broken down into individual units of a simple sugar, called xylose, which is then hydrogenated to make xylitol. Positives are that it has a sweetness exactly equal to sugar (but only half the calories) and so measures exactly like sugar spoon for spoon, making for easy recipe conversion. Additionally, there are a pretty good number of research studies that point to its actually being of some health benefit for preventing cavities and ear infections in children. Drawbacks: from my own use, I noted typical intestinal side effects of sugar alcohols, such as gas, bloating, rumbling, and diarrhea, although some people aver less misery with it than with other sugar alcohols, except, perhaps, erythritol. Additionally, I am able to perceive a slight cold, faintly metallic quality to its taste, although other people describe it as a clean taste. Once only found in chewing gum, so in small amounts in the diet, it’s now being manufactured in bulk and in individual single serving packets. If you tolerate using it, and many people do, it’s probably among the least offensive of the sugar alcohols. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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I'm staying away from all sugar substitutes from now on - maybe some on a special occasion like a bday or xmas or that sort of thing. But generally, I won't be using them to kill carb-cravings because it does just encourage your sweet tooth. I think giving them up for this challenge has been part of what's made it work so well for me. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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So anyone here have any ideas of why this egg thing has been working for me, while meat and water didn't? I am fascinated by it. Do you think it's the eggs, or the fact that I'm doing a mono diet that's killing my appetite and letting my shed the weight so quickly? I'm interested in hearing any thoughts about this. I have my theories, which I've touched on (about insulin index, etc.), but there may be another reason I'm not thinking of. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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BlackLabelSimian Meat Devil


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| adwred wrote: | | So anyone here have any ideas of why this egg thing has been working for me, while meat and water didn't? I am fascinated by it. Do you think it's the eggs, or the fact that I'm doing a mono diet that's killing my appetite and letting my shed the weight so quickly? I'm interested in hearing any thoughts about this. I have my theories, which I've touched on (about insulin index, etc.), but there may be another reason I'm not thinking of. | It might be something about the eggs and their specific makeup combined with the fact that you're on a mono diet that's making it work so well for you. I once read where someone said something to the effect of "All these different diets are just different names and methods for calorie restriction."
In an odd way, I guess he had a valid point. It's just finding what food(s) and plan agree best with your body.
Or I could just be talking out my ass.
 _________________ "Change. Nothin' stays the same. Unchained...And ya hit the ground runnin'."
"In this house of doom ain't no one gets out alive." |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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No, I think it's a valid point. I think it goes beyond calorie restriction, because I've been this low cal before and never had these results. But that is def. playing a big role here and speeding the weight loss along, for sure. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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BlackLabelSimian Meat Devil


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Another thing I once read went to the effect of "The humble egg is the perfect food, pound for pound."
Some would probably debate that, but maybe for some people, like yourself, it truly is? _________________ "Change. Nothin' stays the same. Unchained...And ya hit the ground runnin'."
"In this house of doom ain't no one gets out alive." |
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Scout Finch Meat Devil


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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I agree. I think it's the fact that you are on VLC (very low calorie) plus something about the eggs specifically. Sheesh, at the rate you're going, you'll be "disappearing" yourself if you're not careful!
Your weight loss for the week was astonishing, ova. Really nice work.  |
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BlackLabelSimian Meat Devil


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Red,
In your honor I am indeed having deviled eggs to celebrate your -10 lbs.  _________________ "Change. Nothin' stays the same. Unchained...And ya hit the ground runnin'."
"In this house of doom ain't no one gets out alive." |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Eggs, when cooked are fluffy and light and Meat when cooked is solid and weighs about a ton .5 and is grey and even when raw is not as spongey and,(takes breath) fluffy like and egg is when it's cooked or over-easy it just slips on out like it was never there, you know? And stuff  |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Avalon wrote: | Eggs, when cooked are fluffy and light and Meat when cooked is solid and weighs about a ton .5 and is grey and even when raw is not as spongey and,(takes breath) fluffy like and egg is when it's cooked or over-easy it just slips on out like it was never there, you know? And stuff  |
Er... yeah! _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Day 9:
Cals: 804
Fat: 62 g
Sat: 20 g
Poly: 8 g
Mono: 23 g
Carbs: 7 g
Fiber: 0 g
Protein: 51 g _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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I wasn't even drinking when I wrote that 
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