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adwred · Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject:

My squeeze always rolls his eyes when I start talking about my brother because I rave about him so much. He's a bit jealous because I don't go on about him the same way. But really I do, but not when he's in the room, so he doesn't get to experience it. Laugh

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Avalon · Top Carnivore Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 3326

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adwred · Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject:

I think I recall Scout saying her grocery store doesn't stock it because demand is too low, so that might be the same situation at yours. But if you have a Chinatown near you, they always have it.
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woof_woof · Carnivore King Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 796

A few days ago I ran out of eggs so I eat mostly meat and some dairy.
I didn't notice any difference but maybe my sensitivity is close to that of a polar bear.

Avalon · Top Carnivore Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 3326

DOHHH!!! What happened to the thread?

adwred · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject:

Whaddya mean? Confused

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cygnus · Top Cat Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 273

god in the good old days of bodybuilding when 5 miiligrams of D-bol was extreme those guys would eat 3 dozen eggs a day!

Plus 100 dessicated liver tabs, lb of beef,lots of cream and butter and some drank a gallon of milk on top!

can you imagine how that would feel?

I did a regimen where you ate 8 times a day.

Lean protein and fibrous and starchy carb at every meal.Beans,brown rice,whole wheat noodles..ya know

Now I'm predaibetic. I never heard of any of the guys form the 50's,60's or 70's contracting type-2 diabetes.

Some reccomend 2 egg yolks every 2 hours for healing and nitrogen retention.

ReddyMcMeaty · The Boss Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 5776

Here is a quip from a longer article reporting on some things. I just thought the egg part was good to know, as if we needed any reason to eat eggs after the egg successes in here.

Prolific low-carb researcher Dr. Jeff Volek's group had a couple posters at EB as well. Here's what they had to say:

• After 12 weeks, obese women on a very low carbohydrate ketogenic-diet had much less systemic inflammation compared to those that followed a low fat diet. For those that are interested, the inflammatory markers that decreased were: TNF-a, IL-8, MCP-1, E-selectin, I-CAM, and PAI-1.

• People on low-carb diets that ate 3 whole eggs each day also had decreased inflammation compared to those low carbers that ate egg substitutes (Note: Eat your eggs! They're also loaded with leucine).

• People on a low-carb diet who ate more saturated fat had a higher utilization of saturated fat and their livers produced less saturated fat. Low-carb diets seem to allow for increased use of saturated fats by the body as well as increased clearance.

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adwred · Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject:

Unfortunately, Karen, I haven't had the same experience with lean meat. It's only with egg that I experience the appetite suppression and weight loss. With lean meat only, I have way too much protein and stop losing weight entirely, plus I never feel satisfied. Only with eggs. Dunno

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RedTulipMoon · Top Cat Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 451

adwred..
im confused. do you mean that you get appetite suppression on eggs only..but NOT on lean meats plus eggs??? or do you mean you dont get appetite suppression on lean meat only? the kimkins is lean meat AND eggs. i am wondering now..is it the eggs that is the key to the appetite suppression ....is it the lean meat?? a combo of both??? is it just the LOW CARB/LOW CAL combo that does it?? i wanna know!! lol Laugh

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ReddyMcMeaty · The Boss Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 5776

Red and I are opposites. I get total suppression from lean meats and plenty of protein.. fat thrown into the picture makes me want to eat a lot. Red needs plenty of fat because a lot of protein stops her from losing and also makes her want to eat more and more. Eggs are something magical altogether.. Laugh

Everyone who tries the egg only or egg mostly diet loses a lot of weight really fast and feels good.

On kimkins the suppression definitely comes from the high protein and low cals, I believe that works well for most people... but in these forums it appears there are several people who do not find high lean protein low cal low carb to be effective. The common thread is to cut the damned carbs Smile

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adwred · Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject:

Yes, what Meg said! I don't do well on lean meat, with or without eggs. Eggs only is the only thing that works like Kimkins should for everyone else. I can add fat or not add fat and have the same effect, as long as the fat isn't dairy based (which stimulates hunger in me).
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Scout Finch · Meat Devil Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 1162

What bothers me about Stillman/Kimkins/lean proten-no fat is that isn't the mechanism going to work the same as Ornish in some respects? Oh, I just forgot about the no-carbs, though - sorry! I was thinking of eggy's inability to do lean meat because of lack of hunger suppression.

I actually tried Ornish during my "high-carb dieting" years and it was hell. I think I made it about 3 days and then succumbed to eating something fatty. Anyway, it's extremely low fat and high carb. But if Kimkins et. al is missing the fat (yeah, there's a little more fat in lean meat than carbs, though), won't you experience the same hunger pangs?

I think I'm getting things mixed up or backwards here. But for some reason the low-protein Kimkins/Stillman thing seemed counterintuitive to me in weight loss. But I guess if you don't ingest fat OR carbs, you really will start eating away at your body fat.

LIke any plan, though, it won't work for everybody. I've never tried it, but I bet I would starve on something like that. But who knows? Dunno

Avalon · Top Carnivore Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 3326

Lean meat and eggs become a fatty mix right? So not so lean actually, because of fatty yolks...

adwred:

adwred · Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject:

I know there's probably other OK things for me out there. And meat and eggs seems to be fine for maintenance, as I never gain weight on zero-carb, so I'm hoping when (if) I ever reach that elusive goal weight, my diet will expand significantly. Yup

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bubbaM · Hunter Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 227

Has anyone ever seen a recipe for a crustless low carb egg quiche? Is it possible to make a quiche without a crust?

bubba

adwred · Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject:

Sure! Just put the custard mixture in a buttered (or larded) pyrex dish, instead of in a crust! Comes out very nicely. Yup

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Plasma · Pack Member Joined: 03 Oct 2008 Posts: 68

88 year old man eats 20-30 eggs a day
http://atkinslowcarboriginal1970d...r-old-man-eats-30-eggs-daily.html

I have already consumed 35 raw egg yolks in a day already.

usually i get between 2-10. I cant imagine traditional people eating to many eggs though, I would think eggs would be like fruits, rare treats, seasonal gifts.

Avalon · Top Carnivore Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 3326

That's cool that they could test how he was different. I wonder if it runs in his family.

Recently I've been eating more raw yolks but have no clue what my cholesterol is. And I've been fighting binge eating so never mind Roll Eyes

Best wishes,
Avalon

Trem · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:40 am Post subject:

golooraam · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject:

Avalon · Top Carnivore Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 3326

How is your cholesterol?

I'd really like to know someone who eats a lot of eggs a day 6+ with normal cholesterol levels.

Best wishes,
Avalon

Plasma · Pack Member Joined: 03 Oct 2008 Posts: 68

here are my results, this is from 4 years of eating 2 egg yolks to 30 egg yolks a day...

usually its at least 6 a day on average..

Triglycerides 72 mg/dl <150
Cholesterol, Total 186 mg/dl ( 125 – 200 )
HDL Cholesterol 55 mg/dl > OR = 40
LDL Cholesterol 117 mg/dl (calc) <130

CHOL/HDLC Ratio 3.4 (calc) < OR = 5

I'm actually going for another Lipid panel next week, i usually go 2-3x a year.

adwred · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject:

Two to three times a year?? Why on earth do you go so often?
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Plasma · Pack Member Joined: 03 Oct 2008 Posts: 68

I test every vitamin, mineral, antioxidant, hormone, etc, etc 2x a year.

I will probably reduce to 1x a year eventually.

adwred · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject:

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adwred · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject:

I'm just glad my name isn't 'rectal exam'.

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