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ReddyMcMeaty The Boss

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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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No kidding.
I'm down about half my water today.. I'm not weighing, just going by the looks of my ankles. Eating a lot of devilled eggs actually.
Scrambled eggs are not filling for me, 2 of them leave me very hungy, 4 of them leave me stuffed but unsatisfied somehow. I love them though especially with toast and butter which I don't eat over here because the bread doesn't make the right kind of toast and we don't have a toaster anyway.
Hard boiled eggs are filling for me.
Eggs seem to be pretty heartburny for me, only I've got a baby squashing my stomach and relaxin messing with all of my smooth muscle so I can't really tell for real. I'm going to make a quiche tomorrow with a little ham and peppers as seasoning and see if I can be satisfied just eating slices of it all day.
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barb0324 Guest
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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I get heartburn when I eat eggs too, was thinking maybe its the eggwhite? That might have been one of the reasons why I quit eating them... hmmm, memory is a fickle thing.
Does anyone else get heart burn when eating eggs? |
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ReddyMcMeaty The Boss

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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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I don't remember getting heartburn from them as a non pregnant person. But as a regular person I'm naturally relatively heartburn free as long as I'm mostly low carb and have not gone on a fat binge.... but things like lime kill me. Oh and olive oil too. _________________ "Man lives on one quarter of what he eats. On the other three quarters lives his doctor." |
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barb0324 Guest
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Same here, I have NO heartburn when eating no carbs (flour, sugar etc.) I can eat lettuce and such things, but lately I noticed that eggs would do that. And onions, of course, but sometimes I just need a bit of onion to spice things up.
Will test it next week, esp. to see if it's the eggwhite. I love egg yolks and can eat those alone.
That reminds me, I've been meaning to ask whoever it is that doesn't eat eggwhites (Paleogirl?) what the reason is.... |
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siouxcountry Virgin Viper


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| BlackLabelSimian wrote: | Dayum. Four eggs and a piece of steak or some bacon is a light snack for me.  |
I hear you Brother, I can eats 2 dozen hard boiled eggs a day with ease. |
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BlackLabelSimian Meat Devil


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| siouxcountry wrote: | | BlackLabelSimian wrote: | Dayum. Four eggs and a piece of steak or some bacon is a light snack for me.  |
I hear you Brother, I can eats 2 dozen hard boiled eggs a day with ease. | I don't know if I could go through quite that many, but a solid dozen boiled or deviled? Hell yeah.
I don't get heartburn from eggs. Meatwise, I sometimes have a bit of a hassle with chicken or turkey, though. _________________ "Change. Nothin' stays the same. Unchained...And ya hit the ground runnin'."
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Redy wrote: | Quote: |
I'm going to make a quiche tomorrow with a little ham and peppers as seasoning and see if I can be satisfied just eating slices of it all day. |
The way to Avalon's Borg heart is through quiche! Hmmm, qhiche, quiche, quiche, quiche!  |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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I've never had heartburn from eggs. I've gotten it only a few times in my life, but when I do, it's been murder. I'm not sure what it was from - usually it's after eating crap and lots of carbs. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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So far, egg challenge going swimmingly!  _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Since my body is responding so well to this egg challenge, I'm wondering what it was about my former diet that was going wrong. I ate a lot of meat, before. Excess protein is not good and eggs have a good fat:lean ratio and are filling for the amount of protein and calories. My guess is that cooked meat (which I seem to be able to eat endless amounts of) and dairy are my downfall. They exaggerate my hunger and my capacity for food. They also cause rebound hunger more quickly than eggs do. My one biggest shock from this experiment has been how long I can go between meals without discomfort or hunger pangs. My theory is that it has something to do with the high insulin index of meat and the low index of eggs. I think my body is really sensitive to that insulin index, so if a food, even if it's zero carb, stimulates insulin release, my body knows it instantly and responds with a strong rebound hunger. Maybe some people release more insulin from meat than others and that's why some people do so well on zero carb and some don't. I don't know that I will respond the same way to raw meat. The insulin index study was done on well-done meat. I will experiment with raw this once my egg challenge is complete.
Anyone else seem to be able to eat unreasonable amounts of meat and it stalls their weight loss? I know a lot of you aren't in this for weight loss and are just maintaining, but any feedback is welcome. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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ReddyMcMeaty The Boss

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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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I can't eat unreasonable amounts if it's lean, I can only eat unreasonable amounts of fat or fatty meat. You know that already though I keep going on about it
I had scrambled eggs this morning a la Red, meaning 5 eggs. I did add some ham and peppers to it but after I ate it I didn't feel massively stuffed and was like what the heck, but at 4pm I'm still not hungry. _________________ "Man lives on one quarter of what he eats. On the other three quarters lives his doctor." |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I don't really feel massively stuffed, either. Just 'done' - you know? I could keep eating, but not more eggs. I'm stuffed as far as eggs are concerned. Some buttered toast and homefries would go down nicely, though! And yes, they make you unhungry forever. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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BlackLabelSimian Meat Devil


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| adwred wrote: | Since my body is responding so well to this egg challenge, I'm wondering what it was about my former diet that was going wrong. I ate a lot of meat, before. Excess protein is not good and eggs have a good fat:lean ratio and are filling for the amount of protein and calories. My guess is that cooked meat (which I seem to be able to eat endless amounts of) and dairy are my downfall. They exaggerate my hunger and my capacity for food. They also cause rebound hunger more quickly than eggs do. My one biggest shock from this experiment has been how long I can go between meals without discomfort or hunger pangs. My theory is that it has something to do with the high insulin index of meat and the low index of eggs. I think my body is really sensitive to that insulin index, so if a food, even if it's zero carb, stimulates insulin release, my body knows it instantly and responds with a strong rebound hunger. Maybe some people release more insulin from meat than others and that's why some people do so well on zero carb and some don't. I don't know that I will respond the same way to raw meat. The insulin index study was done on well-done meat. I will experiment with raw this once my egg challenge is complete.
Anyone else seem to be able to eat unreasonable amounts of meat and it stalls their weight loss? I know a lot of you aren't in this for weight loss and are just maintaining, but any feedback is welcome. | When I eat no carb for any length of time, I have to eat like a pig to hold onto any amount of weight, so I can't really say I hit any kind of stall. I imagine at some point I would if I was eating a more normal amount and my body adapted to the eating pattern, though. That's why I tend to eat a couple no carb meals a day and one paleo meal...I'm not really looking to lose too much weight. Just trying to get and stay relatively lean while trying to maintain and build a bit more muscle and the fruits/vegetables seem to help just enough in keeping my weight from dipping too low.
Does any of that make ANY sense? lol _________________ "Change. Nothin' stays the same. Unchained...And ya hit the ground runnin'."
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it makes sense. And I hate you and your man-metabolism.  _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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BlackLabelSimian Meat Devil


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| adwred wrote: | Yes it makes sense. And I hate you and your man-metabolism.  | I was talking to a couple clerks at the local gas station (one male, one female) the other day and we were talking about weight and I was pissing and moaning how I can drop obscene amounts of weight in a matter of days if I'm not careful and the girl just glared at me and said "I hate you men".  _________________ "Change. Nothin' stays the same. Unchained...And ya hit the ground runnin'."
"In this house of doom ain't no one gets out alive." |
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ReddyMcMeaty The Boss

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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| adwred wrote: | Yes it makes sense. And I hate you and your man-metabolism.  |
I'd be more like fuck you and your man metabolism, it leaves the options open. _________________ "Man lives on one quarter of what he eats. On the other three quarters lives his doctor." |
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ReddyMcMeaty The Boss

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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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oops, this is in the public area isn't it _________________ "Man lives on one quarter of what he eats. On the other three quarters lives his doctor." |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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As if we've been containing ourselves in any of the other threads. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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BlackLabelSimian Meat Devil


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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<---Opts for the silent approach. For once.
 _________________ "Change. Nothin' stays the same. Unchained...And ya hit the ground runnin'."
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Is it just me or has this whole forum 'dirtied' up significantly since BLS joined?
Let's hear it for BLS!  _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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BlackLabelSimian Meat Devil


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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| adwred wrote: | Is it just me or has this whole forum 'dirtied' up significantly since BLS joined?
Let's hear it for BLS!  | Somehow that reputation seems to follow me no matter what message boards I go to. Especially ones overflowing with lovely ladies.
Sue me, I can't help myself. *shrugs*  _________________ "Change. Nothin' stays the same. Unchained...And ya hit the ground runnin'."
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barb0324 Guest
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Lol, just about every thread....
Question: what do you consider unreasonable amounts of meat? And off the top of your head, do you think eating Rib Eye steaks nicely marbled supplies the right balance of meat/fat, or should one add fat?
(I've been so bad today, will have to confess in journal later on..)  |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:22 am Post subject: |
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barb! Amoumts of meat? Eating rib eye off the top of heads? Well, I...  |
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:31 am Post subject: |
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Unreasonable amounts of meat. Well, I guess that's relative. For me, eating 20 chicken wing halves is unreasonable for my body, but I can do it easily. I can eat 30, actually. Eating a 16 oz rib eye is too much for my body, but I can polish one off, no problem. For other people, they seem to be able to eat that much and not have a problem, or can go the rest of the day without eating, but I'd be hungry again in 3 or 4 hours at most. I can eat 12 oz (cooked weight) of fried pork belly. For most people that would be too much. I'd be ready to do it again by lunchtime. And when I eat cooked meat, I never feel satisfied - I just get a kind of discomfort when I've eaten too much of it. But no in-between. I'm hoping that raw meat will be better for me.
A ribeye, well-marbled should have a good ratio of fat, although it's hard to tell. So many supermarkets these days trim meat within an inch of its life. Well-marbled is OK, but I'd say well-marbled with a nice strip of fat along the edge would be optimal. And if you're cooking it, you sort of have to add fat, so it's not a problem.
Oh and LOL @ Xeta. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Before I put a curse on your house, is salted pork the same as pork belly. They have chuncks-o-pork that look like bacon ready to be sliced... this stuff is vaccum sealed...
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ReddyMcMeaty The Boss

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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: |
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no, pork belly is not cooked yet and it isn't salted and it's with the fresh meat. It's just plain raw pork belly, the kind I get comes with ribs in it but you can buy it in slices here too.
If you can imagine bacon BEFORE it's been cured and sliced then that is kind of what it looks like. _________________ "Man lives on one quarter of what he eats. On the other three quarters lives his doctor." |
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Avalon, I'm gonna getchyou, little devil ...
Thanks for the answer Red, see here's the thing: I don't eat that much! And still put on weight!!!
I am getting eggs this weekend, lots of egss. |
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BlackLabelSimian Meat Devil


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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: |
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And the egg revolution continues...lol
And whaddaya mean "Just about every thread"?
 _________________ "Change. Nothin' stays the same. Unchained...And ya hit the ground runnin'."
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adwred Bear Disciple


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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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(in a childish snappy tone) LOL on you too, adwred (tongue sticking out)  |
Really I should have said LOL with Xeta. Cuz that's what I meant. :PPPP
And yes, what Meg said. Salted pork is pork belly, in that it's the right cut of meat - it just has been cured in a salt brine. It's really good, too, but it usually has nitrates in it, so I avoid it when I can. My brother sometimes brings me over salt pork slices fried up until really crispy as a treat when he comes over. And he eats Bavarian pretzles and I eat salt pork while we watch movies. Now that's someone who cares. When I was recovering from my abdominoplasty, he brought over loads of it and said that 'eating belly will be good to help heal my belly'. Which is true! Traditional Chinese medicine involves a lot of that sort of thing.
Anyway, that's how I got hooked on pork belly. From my brother bringing salt pork over. _________________ I'm a vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure to get 5-10 servings of herbivore per day. |
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ReddyMcMeaty The Boss

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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Your brother keeps sounding better and better
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