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GoatHerder Newbie

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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: blood and belief |
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Hi everyone, I ams new and have been eating raw meat for a while...I do eat carbs in the form of some vegetable matter(berries and things...also I have a dairy goat ) Anyways, I am a Christian and I love Jesus. First off, are there any christians here? and if so, how do you reconcile the Bible telling us not to drink blood? I would say it has to do with pagan practices back then....but God tells Noah not to after the Flood when God first gives humans permision to eat meat. To me that says something else....but not sure, so I eat the way I think is healthies ( raw animals). Sorry if I offend anyone, I jsut want to know if there are other christians who can perhaps comphort me....Im not interested in a debate concerning the origin or evolution of life.
Thanks for your understanding.
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Good Morning GH! By the way Your initials go with my Favorite Soap- General Hospital!
I don't think eating meat raw has anything to do with 'drinking blood'. The 'blood draining' takes place when the Cows are slaughtered, hung upside down. Is this what you mean?
I never felt it was about raw vs cooked.
Shouldn't you be getting back to the Garden though? I'm almost there
Best wishes,
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ReddyMcMeaty The Boss

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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not trying to be silly here.. but yeah, wouldn't it refer to really drinking blood? There are cultures that do that, or make blood soup, or blood pudding/sausage so maybe it was referring to that. _________________ "Man lives on one quarter of what he eats. On the other three quarters lives his doctor." |
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Eat No Animal Fat:
"And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 'Speak to the children of Israel, saying: You shall not eat any fat, of ox or sheep or goat. And the fat of a beast that dies naturally, and the fat of what is torn by wild animals, may be used in any other way; but you shall by no means eat it." (LEVITICUS 7:23-24)
Eat No Blood:
“. . . but you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.” (Gen.9:3)
"Moreover you shall not eat any blood in any of your dwellings, whether of bird or beast. Whoever eats any blood, that person shall be cut off from his people." (Lev.7:26-27) |
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hard_rainus Pack Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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[QUOTE]Eat No Animal Fat:
"And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 'Speak to the children of Israel, saying: You shall not eat any fat, of ox or sheep or goat. And the fat of a beast that dies naturally, and the fat of what is torn by wild animals, may be used in any other way; but you shall by no means eat it." (LEVITICUS 7:23-24)
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GH, do you believe everything in the Bible? I don't think most here do. |
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meatISawesome369 Hunter


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hey Goatherder,
I am a Christian. I guess I'm your first responder to be a Christian. Let me explain something for you. In the Old Testament, the Jews were under the law. They had to keep the Sabbath, dietary laws, and many others. The Lord gave them the law to show them that they were unable to keep it. Romans 5:20," Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:"
The law came to show us that were sinners and see our need for a Savior. Christ came, lived in perfection, bore our sins upon the cross, and rose again the third day. We, as Christians, are in the dispensation of grace. We are not under the same dietary laws as the Jews. There are no dietary restrictions for Christians. I have a lot of verses on my mind to quote but don't have time right now. But yeah there's nothing wrong with a little bloody meat, pork, shellfish,etc.
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Many believe that God...
never mind ...  |
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woof_woof Carnivore King


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Gods and food in one thread.
This should be a good thread. _________________ Sex and violence
If you don't live for something, You'll die for nothing.
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Avalon Top Carnivore


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Gods and Generals and Food?  |
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Johnny Ace Flesh Eater

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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:24 am Post subject: Re: blood and belief |
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| GoatHerder wrote: | Hi everyone, I ams new and have been eating raw meat for a while...I do eat carbs in the form of some vegetable matter(berries and things...also I have a dairy goat :D ) Anyways, I am a Christian and I love Jesus. First off, are there any christians here? and if so, how do you reconcile the Bible telling us not to drink blood? I would say it has to do with pagan practices back then....but God tells Noah not to after the Flood when God first gives humans permision to eat meat. To me that says something else....but not sure, so I eat the way I think is healthies ( raw animals). Sorry if I offend anyone, I jsut want to know if there are other christians who can perhaps comphort me....Im not interested in a debate concerning the origin or evolution of life.
Thanks for your understanding. |
Do you eat shellfish and pork? These are also barred in the Torah, as is wearing clothing of mixed fabrics.
Most Christians take Peter's vision in Acts as proof that Christians are not under dietary laws. Also, the early heads of the church, when they found out that Gentiles were converting to Christianity, didn't advise them to take up the kosher food laws. The only food prohibition was not to eat meat offered to idols. HTH. _________________ "One became great by expecting the possible, another by expecting the eternal; but he who expected the impossible became the greatest of all." Søren Kierkegaard |
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GoatHerder Newbie

Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Hey, I appreciate all of your rather kindly responses! First of all, Avalon, I am unsure about your comment "arnt you supposed to try to get back to the Garden" Are you refering to the idea that humans started out as essentially frugivores in the Garden of Eden? I notcie your name, Avalon, which is like...the apple paradise right? Aval means fruit or apple...are you making a joke concerning this. ( I thought it was funny, in a good way).
I do believe I dont have to follow the Law. It seems, after continued thinking concerning this, that the disciples decision to have the new non jew converts avoid blood drinking would perhaps be because drinking blood was apart of the worship of other Gods.....sooooo, I am still a little unsure, but not too worried.
I REALLY appreciate all of your responses! Very considerate of you all. Sorry it took me so long to respond.....college is buysy buissness.
Avalon, your name reminds me of the book The Recovery of Culture by Henrey Bailey Steavens.....anyone heard of it, if so, whatchya reckon concerning it?
THANKS!!!!
-GoatHerder
PS: I do keep goats  _________________ RAWR |
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Trem Hunter

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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:07 am Post subject: |
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I am not a Christian, however I came accross this...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/kosloff13.htm
Most people who are Christian have no idea what the bible says. In Deuteronomy it states,
"You cannot live by bread alone."
In Peter 10: 12-18 it says,
"Peter kill and eat, I give you animals
to nourish your body, you can eat meat on the hoof,
dairy products, fish, chicken, and turkey." |
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the_individualist Hunter

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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| woof_woof wrote: | Gods and food in one thread.
This should be a good thread. |
Ha no kidding. Who was it that said: people's blind rigidity in dietary belief is second only to their belief in religious dogma.
Anyway, here's one Christian perspective:
http://www.biblelife.org/biblediet.htm
Not sure if there is anything specifically on drinking blood, though.
Be warned however, this guy is an ignorant and irrational nut when it comes to many things. |
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Trem Hunter

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| the_individualist wrote: | | Be warned however, this guy is an ignorant and irrational nut when it comes to many things. |
You can say that again. That site has a great amount of useful information, especially for us carnivores....it's just very hard to take seriously when it has such a strongly religious overtone to it. |
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GoatHerder Newbie

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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Trem, is it better to know what the words say, or what the words mean?
Anyways, Ive come to the conclusion that the reason the disciples told the gentiles who were converting to Christiainity, at that time simply Mesianic Jews, is because drinking blood was a common practice in the worship of other gods. No worries everybody, I am not so ignorant and unwilling to change, I just wanted to see what others thought.
Thanks! _________________ RAWR |
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Level_04 Newbie

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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject: Technicality |
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Goatherder: Taking your question purely at face value, I would note that raw meat from slaughtered animals does not contain blood. The reddish brown juices in red meats is myoglobin, which is not blood or a blood product in any way.
So, I leave the biblical interpretation up to you and others, but at least you can rest assured you are acquitted by technicality on this one.
_________________ Specialization is for insects. - Robert Heinlein |
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