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| Nicola |
Vegi is not the answer!http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mc...ll/030700pumeatinthehumandiet.htmAfter this I thought of Dr. Groves and this is his answer What do I think of that webpage? Not a lot! Yes, 4 million years ago, our ancestors would probably have been plant eaters. But a lot has changed in those 4 million years. If we had continued to eat plants, we would not have evolved the big brains we now have and would not have becomme "human". We would have just been another species of ape. So our system used to digest plants, then changed to one like that of a > dog > and has not changed yet; all those things that modern man is eating which > is > not rawpaleo will have a draw back? > Yes, that's about right. Modern hunter/gatherers do cook meat - but only as far as medium-rare. They don't overcook. I don't think cooking like this should matter. It doesn't degrade the proteins, fats or micronutrients. Although it can make meat take slightly longer to leave the stomach. Actually this has the advantage that you don't hungry as quickly. Yes, our colons function perfectly well on this way of eating. To make life simple, the easiest rule to follow is to eat what would have been available naturally during the last million years or so. That is what our digestive system is adapted to So, with that in mind, the last million years (2 million actually) saw a series of Ice Ages, with long cold winters and short cool summers. The only foods that would have been available all year round would have been meat and fat from animals. So that should form the basis of meals today. In the short summers, there would have been a little fruit and other plant material. No doubt our ancestors ate this as well. But note that this period would only have lasted a few weeks and fruits available would not have been the very sweet ones of today. Do you know what crab apples are? They were the original apples. Try one. When people talk about 'saturated fat', they usually mean animal fats. But all fats in nature are mixtures of saturated and unsaturated fatty acids. Meats fats (and human fat) is about 45% saturated, 50% monounsaturated and 5% polyunsaturated. So, all the PUFs and MUFs you need are found in meat fat - and in the correct proportions. Don't worry about ratios and amounts. Just buy fat meat - and brains, bone marrow and other organs that you can get. You are right to keep it simple Just so for those that find it difficult, if messages get posted on this No-carber forum, which can/could up set people. |
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| johndela1 |
Re: Vegi is not the answer!
It doesn't damage the proteins as much as cooking it to much, but I dont' think it is correct to say it just damage them at all. Moreover, cooking creates physically addictive beta- carbolines, which cause you to want to eat even more. From what I've seen and read the more you cook something the more you. Check this out for more info: http://www.13.waisays.com/cooking.htm |
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| Nicola |
I just printed what Dr. Groves gave me as a answer; I eat my meat and fat raw!
That "McDougall Newsletter" was postet to this forum and I just don't know why? We are a active no-carber forum and have no need for that sort of confusing news! |
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| Avalon |
Nicky wrote:
Hi Nicky, The fact is, this forum, designed as it is, has a place to post called- 'Naysayers & Contrarians', which means if someone wants to freely oppose all meat or, finds their way away from all meat, or any opposing views- this is the place for them to post. The truth is, no one has to even bother reading anything in here. Kind of like Television. If you don't like it, don't watch it. I came to ANC because at the time I was looking into eating raw meat like Aajonous Vonderplanitz. There were people here eating raw fish and meat- and yet at the same time I was struggling with 'my own' nutritional belief system. I still am. So because there is a place to post about alternative ways of eating, I feel I can post here about McDougall, Ornish or any other food loon out there. If your beliefs are secure, I applaud you! From my heart! The more I learn the more I question it seems. I'm experimenting. And I wish you well on your journey 
Avalon 
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| Nicola |
Avalon I should know that you like to do this and do that; my mind likes to feel shore. I have been threw a lot like you! For me it is best, not to mix, keep things clear and simple and have a lot of time when I don't need to eat!
If you can digest (colon and head) your life then o.k.; we all have to digest a lot in life but I don't want any modern diet to help me on my way. Nicola 
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