| Archive for Active No-Carber Forums A veggie-free zone |
| Nicola |
Salt? Fat? Meat? Fruit? Vegetables? DNA?http://www.becomehealthynow.com/article/traditional/19/I don't think they ever new: am I eating too much protein? I need cod liver oil because...(other than if/when in natural food) Salt yes or salt no? have I had my carbs today? I need magnesium so that I can go to the bathroom! or have I been to the bathroom today/this week/this month? am I eating 80% fat diet? have I done sport today? and so it goes on... |
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| woof_woof |
And the point is? | ||
| hard_rainus |
I believe the point is that perhaps we should follow the example of our ancestors and eat what we have around us and not worry so much about percentages. | ||
| woof_woof |
I don't think it's a very good idea. Many our ascentors went through starvation and had to eat anything to survive. So I will rather stick to the foods which science proved to be good for human beings. |
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| Max Thunder |
What about learning from what our ancestors have done, and WORRY about percentage just like they did? | ||
| Nicola |
woof woof: Science can not prove; life is to complex and science is a big market! What about all the contradictions in science and the money behind all of it? Why do you change things and come up with a new idea(journal)?
Max Thunder has a good answer; they must of worryed, because they new what was best (with out science!). I just posted this because of thoughts about salt, fat, protein, magnesium... that have been mentioned (journals). I like to this "Caveman Cuisine" because; "we live in today's world but our DNA has not changed and our body and mind has not been able to ajust". 
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| Avalon |
H.Rainus wrote
Let's see, I choose... hmmm... and the winner is... The Garden of Eden Ancestors! Yay! WHAT? 
Oh please I was about to start eating loads of meat again before the recall  WHAT???
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| woof_woof |
Nicky
Science I believe in says I only need animal protein, animal fat and water to thrive. Nothing else. And I know it from experience since when I'm really busy I live on rare meats and butter and water and I feel great. And I agree, most of nutrition science is just pure junk. The fact that I do eat/drink other stuff or contemplate minor stuff (food choices, meal timing, ratios, raw, cooked etc) is just me fucking around. It's kind of hobby. |
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| Carne Vorare |
- at least we get to laugh @ their stupid 'theories'. back when i was young sum hot gurl + nutritionist major told me i had simply lost "water weight". when i asked her to feel my arm she touched the muscle and said "Its bone". well, maybe i shouldnt have lifted that much iron... - a 'hobby' im desperate to give up. it works when ur young but @ my age u really have other 'issues' u need to deal with 
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| Avalon |
Carne that's a wonderful Avatar! I'm sure you've been told already 
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| hard_rainus |
Avalon, what is included in the Garden of Eden diet?
woof, how do you decide which science to believe in? |
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| woof_woof |
Personal experience, lots of reading, trials and errors. After a while it becomes pretty obviouse if you dig deep enough. There are still some minor points not that clear but they don't mean that much (kind of 80/20 rule). I've spent months exchanging email with Greg Ellis and I've learnt a lot from him. Great guy. |
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| hard_rainus |
I have pretty much given up on reading nutritional advice from anyone. I base everything on how I feel and how my body reacts to certain foods. | ||
| woof_woof |
Kind of "instincitive eating". I don't buy it. Acquired taste can ruin any instinct. You can train yourself to eat anything and you were trained to eat specific foods when you were a child
Good read : http://www.beyondveg.com/nieft-k/...cto-guide/instincto-guide1a.shtml But everybody should follow his own path. |
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| Avalon |
Appreciate you asking hr, but it's all Naysayer a la Vegan stuff. | ||
| hard_rainus |
I don't do the instinctive eating thing. If I did, I would be eating a lot of fruit because that is what I am drawn to. I decided to try LC for a while and I did ok, but then switched to VLC and I have felt better and lost more weight. I hate the taste of eggs, but force myself to eat them often because since eating them everyday I have had good results. | ||
| adwred |
I agree. Instinctive eating is not something you can properly measure in an environment like ours, where we have access to whatever we want, whenever we want. In a more traditional setting, you might be able to trust your instincts a bit more, since availability would be drastically reduced. | ||
| hard_rainus |
Hey Avalon, I am new here, so I am probably asking a question you have already answered, but what exactly is your stance regarding this diet? | ||
| Carne Vorare |
nope! first time 
actually, the old one had my ONCE-idol the mighty Franco Columbu on it. after my weightlifting accident i decided he'd done enough "inspiring" and chose the "ravens flying overhead" motif. *edit* hm. ok, they might be eagles. |
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