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Avalon

Raw Foods

OMG! Please forgive me. I'm posting this here because veggies and fruits are involved. But tere are raw eggs and beef also. This is a link to a small book written in 1924. I'm not able to select copy to give you a taste, but lets just say the recipes make me gleak. Cream, butter, raw meat- Very Traditional, yet raw!

Hope I haven't posted about this before. Was revisiting the Soil and Health library.

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0203CAT/020331christian/christian.pdf

Has me wanting to make some homemade eggnog which I have never made. And I've never bought figs except in Fig Newton's which I hardly think is the same thing Roll Eyes AND I KNOW, DAIRY AGAIN!

If you have trouble with believing, just skip to some recipes Yup

Best wishes,
Avalon Happy
Avalon

HYGIA SALAD DRESSING.

1 cup Whipped Cream,
2 Eggs,
½ Lemon, Sugar,
2 tablespoonfuls Olive Oil, Salt.
To the yolks of the eggs, beaten very stiff, add the oil and
juice of the lemon very slowly, beating hard all the while,
until it has all been added and is quite thick. Then add the
beaten white of eggs, salt and sugar to taste, and last, one cup
of whipped cream; whip all together until very stiff and set on
ice until ready to serve.


Evil
Avalon

Do I have a problem with food?

FLESH FOODS.
FLESH foods and sea foods have become the second most
important article of diet among all civilized people. This is
due very largely to preparation—to cooking. The adoption of
uncooked food will bring both the body and the appetite to a
state of normality which will naturally and gradually abolish
all flesh as food, but in order to pay the proper respect to the
laws of heredity and environment and aid the beginner in
taking the kinks of custom out of his daily habits, we give
below a few flesh food recipes.

BEEFSTEAK A LA TARTAR.
Steak, Salt,
Onions, Green Peppers,
Pepper, Parsley,

Eggs.
Take a porterhouse or sirloin steak of the size desired.
Grind very fine. Mix with minced onion, pepper and salt.
Mound up on a small platter, make a depression in the top in
which put the unbroken yolk of an egg. Garnish with green
pepper and parsley, and serve
.
CHIPPED BEEF IN CREAM.
Shave dried beef very fine. Pour over it warm water and
let stand for a few minutes. Pour this off and pour on thick
cream with a little parsley chopped fine. Garnish with parsley
and serve.

CLAMS AND OYSTERS.
These articles do not possess any very great food
properties and when taken uncooked they are more
nourishing and less harmful. They should never be eaten with
catsup, vinegar, horseradish or sauces.

DRIED AND SMOKED FISH.
Herring, anchovias, smoked salmon or any dried fish can
be made quite palatable by seasoning thoroughly and soaking
5 to 10 minutes in very warm water.


Shock
ReddyMcMeaty

gleek! and gleek at the eggnog too!
I love raw milk. I'm sitting here thinking about what to type to describe my passion for raw milk. Just try some good quality raw milk with some eggs.. and if you are feeling really naughty, raw honey in there as well. To go all out make ice cream with these ingredients and wallow in ecstasy. If I could immerse myself in a vat of raw creamy milk right now I definitely would. Do you think it's the opiates?
barb0324

Beautifully written, I love that old fashioned script, and the recipes look quite new age, yes?

Lol Meg, I just had a protein shake, or else I might be running for some ice cream Smile
Avalon

I wish it was easy to buy raw milk! Is there a way to reculture cooked pastered milk to bring it back from the dead?

Anyway, I picked out a few paragraphs for whatever reason to share. All taken FWIW.

Quote:
It is only of recent years that the intelligence of mankind
has been directed towards finding out the really useful things
in life. If we mistake not, this decade will stand out in history
as one of the most important since the world began. Its
greatest achievement will be that it has put into motion a tidal
wave, a current of thought that will, do more for the human
race than all the mighty ages and musty centuries that have
gone into the eternity of the past.

It's always- This Decade isn't it?
Quote:
The only true function of food is the growth and support
of life. The needs of the human body are very limited. All the
nutritive elements it requires can be found in their purest form
in less than half a dozen different articles, which in a natural
and healthy being should be selected by the demands of the
system expressed by hunger. There is therefore no reason for
feeding upon the innumerable variety and endless and
senseless mix-ups that are served upon the average table.

During the whole life of primitive man he would not eat
more than a half dozen different varieties of food, while it is
estimated that the average American can select from 1,000
articles.

An uncooked beafsteak could, with much consistency, be
called raw. It looks raw and tastes raw. In the sense that the
skin worn from the shoulder of a horse by a rough collar
makes a raw place, so is an uncooked beafsteak raw. But this
word cannot be made to truthfully describe fruits, nuts and
grains in a perfect state of maturity. They have been finished
by nature, by some supreme intelligence, and sown with
prodigal hand over the face of the earth, and man has become
the beneficiary thereof. And none of his work and puny
efforts can possibly improve them.

We know that, as compared with cooked foods, it only
takes about half the quantity of uncooked food to sustain life.

The securing of food is the chief business of every living
thing on this globe. The necessity, of doing this has shaped to
a very large degree both the body and the mind. It made for
man hands suitable for plucking fruit, nuts, and things that
grew above his head high up in the air and sunshine. It gave
to the lion claws and tusks to catch and tear his food. It gave
to the hog a snout with which to root in the ground. It gave to
the stork and the crane long legs and bills. It gave to the
giraffe a long neck with which to reach buds and leaves. It
gave to the honey bee an organ to collect honey, a sack in his
own body to carry it, and intelligence enough to make his cell
in which to deposit it for future use.
In the process of ages, want creates all that is necessary.
Food taken as nature made it will produce a natural being.
When it is changed, mixed, distilled and concentrated, it is
unnatural, and it will necessarily produce an unnatural being.
For, as man is the net product of his food, as is his food, so he
must be. There is no problem in philosophy more obvious
than this.

One of the most potent and effective agencies known to
change and demolish materials is fire. When we apply it to
our food in the process of cooking, it results in such a change
as destroys the elementary plant form, and the mineral
elements return to their inorganic condition. It cannot be
otherwise, insomuch as it possesses absolutely no element of
construction.

more nutritious than those well done. There is no reason why
the rare meat idea should not be carried to its logical end, and
the food served entirely raw.

It is amazing to think of the kind of food that alleged
civilized people subsist upon, when nature spreads before
them its vast fields and stores of fruits and nuts that have
waved to and fro in the pure air and sunshine, that have
drawn their substances from old Mother Earth and filtered
them through a hundred feet of pure white wood?life-giving
substances that have responded to the warm embraces of
summer and spring?substances that have fed the swelling
bud, burst it into bloom, and filled it with fragrance and
honey, sweet as Araby's fabled rose?foods born from the
fecund womb of Mother Earth, fed on the fragrance and
wrapped in the many-hued swaddling clothes of odorous
blossoms, and rocked by every pure and passing breeze in the
life-giving cradle of summer and spring, and nursed to
maturity at the breast of maternal nature and cooked by the
fires of the eternal sun.

Some very high authorities claim that vegetables are
wholly unnecessary in the sustenance of the human body, but
experience has led us to the conclusion that those containing
much chlorophyll, such as lettuce, cabbage, celery, spinach,
parsley, onions, watercress, dandelion, etc., are very
necessary and valuable articles of food, and, many vegetables
that can be taken in an uncooked form are found to be very
rich in the organic salts so essential to the maintenance of
health.

The evils which follow the cooking or superheating of all
other articles of food cease with their cooking, which consist
principally in lessening their food value. But bread, the so-
called staff of life, is not only subjected to the devitalizing
process of baking, but is infected with a germ that converts a
large amount of the nutritive value of the grain into carbon
dioxide poison.

We do not wish to spoil the reader's appetite for
fermented bread; but since we are discussing the subject, let
us tell the truth about it. Bread rises when infected with the
yeast germ, because millions of these little worms have been
born and have died, and from their dead and decaying bodies
there arises a gas just as it does from the dead body of a hog,
or any other animal. This gas being confined in the dough,
expands, and the whole mass rises. It is at this particular point
that it becomes fit for baking?fit for human food. Think of
it! It is at this point that it is supposed to be the proper
material out of which to make the best quality of flesh and
blood. It looks incredible, indeed, that such a process has
found favor all these years among a sane, sensible and
civilized people.

All condiments, especially stock sauces and dressings,
vinegar, mustards, and such things, possess absolutely no
constructive property, but all of them possess to a very large
degree the elements of decay and destruction. The great
increase in stomach and intestinal diseases referred to by the
best medical authorities in the country is very largely due to
the habit of using condiments.

If people would masticate their food until it ceased to
taste, removing from the mouth the residue, if any, and
involuntarily swallowing the liquid (soup) therefrom, it
would quadruple the pleasure of eating and eliminate forever
from the catalogue of human ills indigestion, constipation and
overeating.

Nature is a perfect economist. If the teeth are not used,
she will refuse to keep them in repair; she will allow them to
decay. She presumes that you do not need them because you
have refused to put them to that use for which they were
created. So long as people subsist upon soft, cooked, mushy
foods, they cannot expect to have good teeth. This is one of
the greatest arguments against the baneful habit of cooking
and in favor of elementary foods.
Jaybird

Piima culture is supposed to be a great way to bring pastuerized milk back to life. Of course you could do yogurt or kefir too, but for drinking you use the piima culture and have piima milk.

http://www.elitealternatives.net/rm_piima11.html

I want to make egg nog now!!! I've been staying away from dairy. Maybe I should get some raw goat milk in the next week or two for a little treat.
Avalon

Hey JB!

I've never heard of Piima, cool! I can't wait to check it out. And i've never had Kefir/made it. I'm jealous you can get raw goat milk! But more Happy than jealous Happy

Maybe eggnog could be a meal in itself Yup
Jaybird

It definitely can be a meal, that's for sure. I use to have it a lot when I was pregnant, as my breakfast. Raw yolks or whole eggs sometimes, raw milk, raw cream, a little maple syrup, cinammon Yup
Nicola

Don't forget all this is modern talk; don't forget our digestive system as Dr. Groves mentions in "Detox". I would not start drinking raw milk; it all sounds good on paper but don't forget our system is not made for all raw! Do you wan't those veges fermenting and causing acid?

It would be interesting to know how some of you got to the weight you are trying to loose? How long have you been like that... It might help you and others share your "history"?

Feel free; I don't wan't to be personal so it's up to you.

Nicola
ReddyMcMeaty

Laugh Does anyone remember a post over at the ALC forums where a German guy asked "How did you get SOOO fat?" Or something to that extent? The forums exploded and he had to leave.

I didn't gain my extra weight drinking raw milk and raw eggs Nicky, I gained it during pregnancy and postpartum period with severe depression that I fed with large amounts of starch and fat mixed together.
Avalon

I stopped caring in general and about my body. I had serious bouts of bulimia to stay the weight gain. Then after atkins (mid 90s) the bulimia partially cured because if you can eat all that food and not gain weight, throwing up seems pointless. But then emotions sometimes rule and you leave atkins, gain weight, throw up once in a blue moon, not like before because you still now know that if you just ate atkins you wouldn't have to. Then lose weight again, gain weight again Shock

'They' say it takes two who believe to do great works. You ever see interviews with couples and they're like both trekkies wearing uniforms, or they're both punk with rings and piercings, or a couple who live underground in an abandonned Missle silo!

This morning on the way to the market two women rode past me on their bikes. One said hello without turning looking back. I thought about the 'takes two' idea. Two women, two bikes... I'm not very strong alone. I have my moments, but a partner, or even a forum Happy that helps reinforce 'what-ever'... what the hell am I on about! DOHHH!!!

Good Morning ANC!
Avalon

Nicky wrote:
Quote:
Don't forget all this is modern talk; don't forget our digestive system as Dr. Groves mentions in "Detox". I would not start drinking raw milk; it all sounds good on paper but don't forget our system is not made for all raw! Do you wan't those veges fermenting and causing acid?

You see Nicky, Dr. Groves is just one man with his own thoughts. He may be right, he may be wrong. But there are hundreds more like him with opposite views.

And many people have successfully lost pounds eating raw veggies. Many people drink raw milk and are not obese.

I can't say I know what Man's true diet is because there are too many opinions. I can say that Proccessed foods- from sodas to munchies of all kinds are bad. I was raised on proccessed foods and still cling to them occasionally Toast

I do question cooked vs raw. Where'd we read that just adding some raw in the diet helps balance the cooked food??? Should we be coooking our food? Are we who we are because of cooked food? Will we lose all our teeth because we're eating cooked mush. It's thought that our jaws are too small for our teeth because we eat mush now... what the hell am I on about! DOHHH!!!
ReddyMcMeaty

Avalon wrote:
It's thought that our jaws are too small for our teeth because we eat mush now... what the hell am I on about! DOHHH!!!


I thought (based on Weston Price) our jaws were too small for our teeth because of generations of poor nutrition, food processing etc. rather than because we don't chew enough. Oh, and because we do not breastfeed for as long. Who knows? My mom has a beautiful jaw, just the tiniest bit crowded. My jaw is far too small in the lower half and I know she based her diet on grains and rice with me and did not nurse for long, if at all. My elder son seems to be developing a nice and broad facial structure even though it is young to tell for sure, despite my husband and I both having poor structure to our faces and jaws. I'm thread derailing again. IMO it's the nutrition rather than the chewing. Except.. it's the physical action of nursing which develops the face! And our bones are all straight and thin from low activity, yet early man's bones were all warped and thick due to the stress placed on them by the muscle insertions. This is all too much... I still think yay raw milk unless you can't deal with the protein.
Avalon

Yay! Raw milk! I'd buy it in a heart beat if it was in reach. Maybe give it up when I got tired of it too Yup heh heh

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/being-human/human-evolution/dn7035

Meg, I think it's probably both. Nutrition is a must.

Quote:
Mess of a Mouth

Lucas's theory is that human dentition began to go haywire soon after our early Homo ancestors learnt to chop and process food with simple tools and, later, to cook it. These processes greatly decrease the size and toughness of food. Lucas estimates, for example, that molars can be between 56% and 82% smaller when eating cooked potato rather than raw.


It makes sense to me that if we don't work our jaw, much like other bones, they get weak. Much like weight bearing exercises Yup
ReddyMcMeaty

but... raw potatoes are poison!
Avalon

pick pick pick Roll Eyes
Avalon

Meg, again as with most things, who can you believe. Raw potato, cooked potato- read the responses...

http://www.annieporthouse.com/?p=145

Quote:
I have now reached the tender age of 60 (you get there at a fast rate once you reach 30) I have always eaten raw potatoes, straight from the ground as I used to spend my summer holidays with an aunt who picked them in the season as a way to earn money. It is with shock/horror that I read that they can kill you as my four sons plus now the grandchildren have always been given a raw peeled potatoe and enjoyed it - what property in a potatoe kills you or maybe my family are exempt…
I await a reply with interest. Carole


Hell, maybe I'll try one now Shock
barb0324

I've eaten raw poatoes, and they are not good! Confused
adwred

So have i. Yuck.

I'd rather have raw milk, thanks.
Avalon

Well I'm trying one today so there!
barb0324

I thought you gave away all your potatoes... Roll Eyes
Avalon

I did. I just asked my neighbor Jack if he was going to Publix today could I hitch along. He said "what do you need?" I said, "I want to buy a potato and eat it raw." He said, "I still have the ones you gave me."

It's now sitting on my counter. Staring at me. What have I done!
adwred

What, indeed...
barb0324

Crack Me Up
Nicola

Xeta; what happend to your nice photo? I am mad with you; "I have stopped careing in general about my self" that is not the way you will stop disrespecting your self! It is about time that you started to know that you are what YOU think! You are not in the world to prove any thing to any body but your self.

Dr. Groves is going from our the way we are made which has not changed over all those years; we are just trying to fit into the modern world which will not work. Why not forget all those new, modern ideas that are making you ill; eating fruit and raw veges will not help you one bit even if 2000 books tell you! Read as much of "rawpaleodiet yahoo" as possible (the new messages come to you as soon as you are member). You can lern from all those mails. Why not be member of a few others and start looking what they have to say. That's the way to find out and try and lern the way you can get on with food.

Try to stop smoking because that has a big inf. on digestion (protein digestion can not be started as well as a non smoker).

Take care from now on
Nicola
Avalon

Dear Nicky Happy
Thank you so much for caring about my Avatar! You are right, we should care about ourselves. Yet evil advertising sucks us in and tries to make us buy pizza, hot pockets, horrible horrible food. And what's more horrible is these foods are specifically designed to taste good! And they do!

I love the Paleo ideal. Back to food as nature intended. But many Paleo People include some fruit, some veggies and the rest. I'd love to be able to live on milk, eggs, some fruit, some veggies and nuts and not eat dead animals. Yet, I do love sushi. Or do I? What do I love about it? What do I love about Beef? The melted fat taste? The salt?

I'll say this again just for whatever- I've learned so much over the last two years of Internet and some books research on nutrition... dating back to please don't make me quote. And what I've learned is, it's still a toss up Bonkers Book after Book, Diet after Diet, who knows whatsit. This is the way, that is the way. This works for some, but not for others. You have to find what works for you and make it so. Or not.

Go to Allissa Cohen's site Raw talk forum

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/index.php

50,000 posts in one section alone. That's a lot of people posting... read the posts with an open mind and you'll see they want what you want- but from a different angle. To dismiss this knowledge, I think is a mistake.

Thank you Nicky, I stopped smoking years ago. One of the most difficult things I have ever done.

Best wishes to you too,
Avalon Happy
Avalon

Over at Raw Talk I found this pic- wasn't looking for it, I was just reading one of the first posts and there was a before and after link.

If you ask me, she's done good and seem happy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums...ndafter/19dda61f.jpg?t=1180864366
Nicola

Avalon; good that you don't smoke. Try not to see what other people "can" eat and don't think that they are better than you because of that. Health is not just what you can see on TV or the street. There are thin people in a mess and there are "normal" people in a mess and there are even fat people in a mess. You never know what goes on because words can change like the weather.

Because you are looking out for food to give you what you lost or what has been taken from you, you will never find life. Food should be the way is has been at the start and not the way we have made it threw our modern world and money. Look, if you have lernt to stuff your self with carbs, then every time you start with fruit and other carbs, you will have a problem. An animal will eat honey and make him self ill on that! The only way is to go right to the start; Dr. Groves took 25 years going in to the native nutrition. Does your cat have weight problems on raw meat? Try giving the cat cooked meat or even carbs!

Dr. Groves says that raw veges will cause problems (if not now then in 1, 2 or 20 years). He will eat a little raw fruit and only cooked veges; but still very little. Meat and fat is an important part.

You are the funny one on this forum and that is why we like you; you have a lot of nice things just don't get on to every bus and think it is the answer to your life.

Nicola
barb0324

Great post Nicky, you make a lot of sense! Yup
Avalon

Good Morning!

Hi Nicky! I'd like to address some of your comments but am not sure where to start.
Quote:
Try not to see what other people "can" eat and don't think that they are better than you because of that.

This board is all about what people "can" eat. What Bear eats and from the inuit to Fast 5. It's called knowledge. You can make wiser decisions this way. Concerning Alissa Cohen, my only problem with her and most other successful diet people- whatever you want to call them, is I wish one day someone would bring something to the world in a not for profit way. Rather than selling dvds and books or at the very least make it clear all profits are going somewhere good. Make it about people and not money.
Quote:
There are thin people in a mess and there are "normal" people in a mess and there are even fat people in a mess. You never know what goes on because words can change like the weather.

I agree with you on this one.
Quote:
Because you are looking out for food to give you what you lost or what has been taken from you, you will never find life. Food should be the way is has been at the start and not the way we have made it threw our modern world and money.

In a perfect world, people would know that food is fuel and not just for sweet satisfaction and fun. But the world celebrates food. Celebrates getting together over a steaming bowl of pasta Carbonara with cream, egg, bacon YUM! There's too much food where we need it the least. We are becoming obese and sick and it's a National epidemic. That's not me talking. Look around you. Look at our children. This is all about learning about food. Healthy food. I would still be 40lbs overweight if I hadn't tried to lose it. If I didn't care, I'd still be there. I'm very happy that I lost that weight. I still have a few pounds to go.
Quote:
Look, if you have lernt to stuff your self with carbs, then every time you start with fruit and other carbs, you will have a problem. An animal will eat honey and make him self ill on that! The only way is to go right to the start; Dr. Groves took 25 years going in to the native nutrition. Does your cat have weight problems on raw meat? Try giving the cat cooked meat or even carbs!

Right now, for this moment, I'm eating one piece of fruit a day. Alone or in a smoothie and i don't believe that is stuffing myself. If you can't eat fruit for health reasons, that's a different story. I never binge on fruit. I binge on man-made food.
Quote:
Dr. Groves says that raw veges will cause problems (if not now then in 1, 2 or 20 years). He will eat a little raw fruit and only cooked veges; but still very little. Meat and fat is an important part.

1, 2 or 20 years. That's a small to big leap there. And so he eats some fruit and veggies. I don't bnge on fruit and veggies and I do believe that fat 'may' be healthy. I'm not sure about meats. What people are sure of today, changes quite often.
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You are the funny one on this forum and that is why we like you; you have a lot of nice things just don't get on to every bus and think it is the answer to your life.

Thank you for the compliment. I do tend to follow the bus, but how do you think say, Dr. Groves learned wheat he's learned? But following one path? He studied many ways of eating and made a decision- that some and some don't agree with. Once you know what's what, you can make your own informed choices. But Nutrition is actually an infant in the scope of our time on this planet. We are learning new things every day. I don't believe all carbs are bad. I do slip and binge now and then. Food tastes good. Emotions die hard.

Best wishes,
Avalon Happy

p.s. I'd like to remind you that it was my searching that lead me to the 7 day Juice Fast, which helped me break a long pattern of eating what-ever and not caring, and it gave me 7 days to plan a new way of eating that I hadn't managed before, to help me lose 40lbs. Which in my opinion is a good thing.

I wish you and every Vegan, Vegetarian, Meat eater and faster well on your journeys. Yup
Avalon

I forgot one important thing.

Nicky, you wrote:
Quote:
Does your cat have weight problems on raw meat?

Only once was he starting to get a little heavy, years ago on a store brand food. He's got a lot of hair, so sometimes he looks heavy, but he's not. And as his parent, I would not allow him to become obese for his own good.

I switched him to raw because I feel that is a cats natural way of eating. Have you not heard of Pottenger's cats?

http://www.ppnf.org/catalog/ppnf/Articles/PottsCats.htm

My mind remains open.
Avalon

I suppose I am one of those messed up people you spoke of. Dunno
adwred

So what do you eat, Nicky? What diet has all your research resulted in? Give us an average day's food.
Nicola

Perhaps I am nut's but I love different sorts of raw meat, lots of marrow and things like hart and other organs (not so much liver). The inners are best when they are old.

I do IF and I told you that my water is the Wink for me. I know that the bigger part in life are the emotions, so I see that what I eat can help me on that path. I save a lot of time which we often don't find any more in our world of "I won't, because I haven't got and you have".

Dr. Groves has helped me a lot and told me that our DNA are still the same; we are trying to fit in a modern world and science is money. On the rawpaleodiet forum I have had contact to people that have eaten all sorts (like me) and now they are nut's like me.

I used to feel like a compost bag; fermenting veges and fruit! I can tell you weight is just one part; there is more going on than just weight; damage can take a long time (that's why I mentioned 1, 2 or 20 years; some notice things, others end up in hospital and others don't get there).

Many things go off hand befor the organs.

Well that's all; I have had PUFA's and MUFA's Evil so don't belive me!

Nicola
Avalon

Dear Nicky,

I'm very glad Dr.Groves has helped you. I am a strong believer in the Paleo way of eating, even if I have troubles with SAD some times. As you said, even Dr.Groves has some fruit and very little cooked veggies. Still Paleo, yes. I agree with much of what you wrote.

I wish you health and happiness,
Avalon Happy
Nicola

"Xeta" (what ever that may be) I had a look at your raw forum you sent; not my world because it's not paleo so I asked Dr. Groves about all this "detox" and also about "The Scientific Debate Forum":

Hi Nicola

No paleo-ancestor worried about all this. They just ate what they could catch or gather. If we look at modern hunter-gatherers, the primitive tribes unsullied by contact with the West, they live entirely healthy lives, except for accidents and predation.

They all cook food to some degree, but never overcook. Only to medium-rare. Veges have to be cooked for longer otherwise the cell walls are not broken down so that nutrients inside can be absorbd. Raw veges are largel nothing more than laxatives. Indeed, salads werwe used as laxatives from Roman times right up into the early part of the 20th century.

Eating a natural diet for us as a species, which is essentially a high-fat meat diet with a little fruit and veg when it is in season, there is no need for liver flushes, or detoxing, or all the other fads of today. Our bodies are very efficient at sorting out what nutrients they need and getting rid of things they don't want. It's all automatic; they don't need any conscious help from us.

Bears eat honey at only one time of the year -- in the autumn when they are building up a store of body fat to provide them with sufficient energy for a winter's hibernation. They would certainly need dentists if they ate such sugars every day.

Barry Groves PhD

That about the bears I asked because there are a lot of raw fooder's eating carbs (honey and fruit).

How could you and how can others put on weight and not get reaktions other than weight? A lot goes on in the body and it has to look after so many organs... So many things must start going off! Your mind and emotions and whole life style get's turned up side down.

I can get upset and I try to handle things from day to day and if things go of street I try to get back on befor I am on "high way to hell".

Nicola
copychick

Nicky wrote:
I can get upset and I try to handle things from day to day and if things go of street I try to get back on befor I am on "high way to hell".


Nicki, are you an AC/DC fan. right on.
jl53563

copychick wrote:
Nicky wrote:
I can get upset and I try to handle things from day to day and if things go of street I try to get back on befor I am on "high way to hell".


Nicki, are you an AC/DC fan. right on.

Just watch out for the "Big Balls" Wink Evil
Nicola

Let me place this; I know it's "this water" again but you are free to read the "Untold Truth" or not

Hi, Nicola,

sources of water in Paleolithic times would have been mainly river, or spring. Both of these passed through mineralised earth before drinking. Depending on the area (many areas are alklaine e.g. the Dolomites feeding into tuscany, the Himalayas,) and these areas would have had water similar to this.

Yes, there are some skeptics. They all have one thing in common; they haven't actually tried the water. There is not one story on our website that did not come from our water clients. Are they all liars?

You can download the Untold Truth Book from our website at www.ionlife.info I'm sure you'll find it interesting!

Ian

AC/DC can be good in the right moment...perhaps they drink that water; Ionlife center is in Australia!

Nicola

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