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| meatISawesome369 |
Do Big Breasts Up Diabetes Risk?This is a very interesting article I got from Mercola's Vital Votes that he got from ABC News. I'll post both links to his Vital Votes article and the original ABC news article. You could tell from comments from Mercola's readers that there were women that laughed at the article and those that were offended . One woman said:
http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public...asts-Up-Diabetes-Risk--49273.aspx http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diab...ource/story?id=4204203&page=1 My conclusion is that it's not there breast size but there all on a high-carb diet. |
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| ReddyMcMeaty |
"breast size" all it does is get attention for the study.. Get over the boobies guys. They're beautiful, they're fun, they are pleasurable, and their main purpose is to feed babies. After moving here, the american obsession with breasts has become pretty tiresome. | ||||
| meatISawesome369 |
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| Max Thunder |
Main purpose, perhaps, but there is a reason why female humans have big breasts year-round and not only when feeding a baby! Anyway, I don't like oversized breasts. I don't even understand what's the deal with playmate-style huge breasts, which I find completely unattractive. |
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| ReddyMcMeaty |
Ok here we go, completely irrelevant but....
I wasn't talking about you, Max Thunder. Anyway, this might not be well known to men who are not familiar with the workings of breasts, but womens breasts increase considerably in size when they are pregnant and nursing. They can get HUGE. They change, depending on what function is needed at the time of the woman's life. Men are so sheltered from real womens breasts for the first part of their life that as they grow into sexuality, breasts become an obsession, and these fantasy breasts are all they know....because in normal life breasts are not out there. They're under clothes, padded and projected and made into unnatural proportions, never to be seen in their natural state. Unless a man has many partners, it is possible that he is not even aware of what real breasts look like, since today the only images that are allowed are impossibly inflated and projected globes. These are the obsession, since real breasts doing real things are not permitted to be seen by people. Everyone loves breasts! Right from the time a person is a baby breasts are wonderful and beautiful things, as sexuality develops men want to see and touch women's breasts and women generally like to have them touched - unless the guy has techniques learned from porn. There's nothing wrong with loving the image of breasts, even imaginary or "man made" breasts, but my personal problem is that the real function is denied. There are places in the US where it is against the law for a baby to eat in public. Women are made to leave stores and restaurants, or told to go sit in a filthy bathroom to feed their babies... all because the function of breasts are not recognized. People are offended by breasts and what they do, and even what they look like. A few years ago my husband came home with some vintage playboys because he thought I'd like them, so I was flipping through them with some friends of mine and the one young man was absolutely incredulous, and even disgusted "they're so saggy!!!" Actually they weren't. The woman was about a C or a D cup and was pretty damned perky for a natural breast of that size, but as a young man he had never been exposed to real breasts, except his 18 year old girlfriend's A cups. I think it's wonderful that nursing in public, and going topless at beaches and even pools is a common thing here. People see breasts of all kinds starting from a young age and continuing through life and they're not an elusive image only to be seen in magazines and on the computer. |
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| woof_woof |
Big breasts are one of the pleasures of life. They should be protected in the world of anorectic women-wannabes
Studies like that are just plain stupid since they try to make a statistical connection between unrelated facts. |
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| adwred |
All breasts are one of the pleasures of life. Big, small or lopsided.
I totally agree with everything Meg said, 100%. The pressure to have perfectly-shaped breasts is something that I'm intimately familiar with. |
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| ReddyMcMeaty |
well it's double edged.. of course we feel the pressure to have the kind of breasts which are portrayed as ideal - and that can be devastating, but imagine the disappointment of all of the boys upon discovering that real breasts are "ugly." I like porn and am not against it in theory, but is it any wonder that porn addiction is a common problem? No real bodies for me thanks, I'll just sit in front of the computer. Maybe I'll buy a real doll while I'm at it. And it's not even really about pressure to have ideal breasts.. it's just that breasts are so elusive that no one really knows what they're about, and they are a very important part of the entire cycle of life. I guess the moral of the story is to show your breasts ladies, and make sure the boys get to see them from the time they're tiny to the time they're old floppy prunes and you'll be doing the world a service.
If you want to get serious about it, have you ever witnessed first hand some of the sexual attitudes of severely sexually repressed cultures, for example in the east? What the men are like? (yah, totally generalizing here!!!) America is many steps away from that, but they also are several steps towards that compared to more liberated sexual cultures (western Europe is my only other experience) And don't even get me started on the Madonna/ whore complexes... |
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| DaphneDescends |
Oi... Meg... don't even get me started on the role sexual repression in a culture has on human sexuality. 
When I took my psychology of sexuality class, I learned that the cultures that had the most sexual repression were more likely to have a higher rate of sex related crimes than societies that made sex a natural part of life from an early age on. Basically when you repress the knowledge of sexuality from children (even though we are sexual beings from the start!) eventually they hit puberty and this weird hidden thing that no one has been talking to them about becomes an unhealthy obsession and they then develop deviant behaviors and ideas in relation to sexuality. *ahem* Ok, got off on a little tangent there. Sorry. 
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| barb0324 |
Interesting tangent though, Daphne. And so true. I took my daughter to Germany every year when she was little, we would spend the Summer with my Aunt and Uncle. Women as a rule do not wear bikini tops, just bottoms. In the beginning it's always a bit awkward, but honestly, after a few hours, you don't even notice... well, some you do, but the taboo in this country is what makes it such a big deal! 
I'm sure Meg can vouch for the fact that naked breasts (and everything else) is all over magazines and television in Europe, and nobody thinks it's a big deal. 
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| ReddyMcMeaty |
That is what I wanted to get across but didn't, and you put it really well. And the example in particular was breasts as an object. Children are absolutely sexual right from the beginning in the most innocent way, it angers me so much that people make that into something shameful, and not only seek to repress it through emotional measures - but physical as well - such as performing surgical procedures on helpless and vulnerable infants, intended to decrease sexual pleasure and create trauma to sexual organs. Welcome to the world tiny baby....oh here is probably the most painful thing you'll ever experience and it's sexual in nature. 
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| DaphneDescends |
Meg, are you talking about clitorectomy or circumcision? |
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| ReddyMcMeaty |
well.. both really, but in America one of them is outlawed, and if I"m not mistaken, they're performed at an older age in other countries....which doesn't make their practice any better. | ||||
| DaphneDescends |
Oh ok. I thought you were talking about circumcision as well, but I didn't want to offend in case you had your boys circumcised. 
In that case, have you ever watched a show called "Bullshit! with Penn & Teller"? It's a really awesome show (it's made me develop an intense crush on Penn Jillette  ).
They have a really good episode on circumcision (and one on sexuality also). |
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| ReddyMcMeaty |
I've never seen it! I grew up blissfully unaware that it was done for any other reason than people being Jewish  and met my Euro husband almost immediately after becoming sexually active, so thank God it was never an issue between us...an issue as in, him wanting us to do it to our sons because it was done to him. It's extremely rare in at least Western Europe. I first heard about it as a teenager when my aunts (nurses) were talking about it, and how they refused to attend them, and how the parents should be forced to hold their babies while it is done and we'd see how many would still opt for it. Actually I'm glad this was brought up, I'm about to start a sort of pregnancy section, a section that is kind of about how diet relates to fertility and offspring since most of us are familiar with pottenger's cats and nutrition and physical degeneration and will add some info in there.
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| ReddyMcMeaty |
Found that vid....
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?ei=UTF-8&b=0&vid=620449 |
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| meatISawesome369 |
Starch-rich diet increases risk for breast cancer
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/starch-breast-cancer.html |
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