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| Dustyboy |
Attention diet coke drinkersI have never done a challenge before, but it sounds like fun so here goes. I am still clinging to my crutch aka diet coke/diet rootbeer. So I figure if I can kick it for a week I've got it beat. I know a lot of you are further along and don't drink such nasty stuff but us beginners need a little encouragement. The way I see it if you start today you have all weekend to deal with any withdrawal symptoms without killing any of your co-workers. Come on you know you need to do it!
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| Carnation |
Here's your cheering section 
You can do it! Once you get past the first few days, it'll get easier. 
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| adwred |
And don't get 'relaxed' about it. I've found once I've been off them for a while and am not craving them anymore, I start to have that 'oh just one won't hurt' attitude. And then next thing you know, I'm sucking down a 2L bottle of something or other. It's like social smoking after you've quit!! | ||||
| Dustyboy |
Hey thanks, guys. O.k., I know I am not the only one. Come on you slackers put the bottle down and walk away. | ||||
| SandyDown |
thing is I treat my diet pepsi as a snack, I have 1 or 2 a day, one mid orning and one mid afternoon, not always two ... I gave up diet soda many times, but I found that I still liked to have the snack, hence when I gave up the diet soda I replaced the diet cola snack with another snack... which means I increased my calorie intake and hence gained weight (at the time I wasn't doing ZC)
So I decided I'll try quitting when I reached my goal, and even then am worrid that the gap that diet coke leaves will be filled with something else highly calorific. |
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| Dustyboy |
That is the great thing about eating this way there is not calorie restriction you can replace it with... I don't know sugar free jello or eat a stick of butter calories be damned. It is just for a week come you can do it. Don't the sweeteners leave that weird taste in your mouth? I know it does mine  Throw off the chains of aspartame's oppression and break free. Take my hand young viper and let us show all those nasty coke drinkers on the side line what they could accomplish if they only dared to try.
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| SandyDown |
Calories does matter when I am only a few lbs away from goal, even if I am doing very high fat and ZC... I can eat a lot of calories and maintain, but if I wanted to lose I'd have to create a calorie deficit.
and I already gave up diet cola many many times and kept it off the stuff for many weeks/months, but as I said, I ended replacing the diet drink with food. |
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| adwred |
Dusty, you're copying me! Black and white cigar pictures rule.
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| SandyDown |
Oh sorry don't mean to hijack your thread  I got kicked off another forum for saying this stuff, so hopefully the Mods here are a bit more tolerant.
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| Dustyboy |
That was my best inspirational speech, I got nothing. I will travel this lonely the only that have ever I don't where it goes but its only me and walk alone. A little Greenday there, very little. | ||||
| Erasmus |
Alas, I have just restocked. 
However, I pledge to join you on your quest,sort of. 
I will forgo my diet mt. dew (diet coke?  ) 5 days a week for the rest of this month.
-E |
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| SandyDown |
Hi there E .. am still doing squats had some really good progress
I'd love to do the diet drink, but unless I gigure a replacement snack am not going to risk it
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| Dustyboy |
O.k. now we are talking, who else amoung you? Come on take one last drink and set your cruel task master aside for a while and prove that it has no hold over you. 
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| Dustyboy |
I have five 2 liters of Coke Zero in the cabnet that no one else in the house drinks. If I make it to next Friday I will dispose of it.
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| SandyDown |
Dinking my diet pepsi as we speak
Seriously wish you all the luck, you are doing great.. |
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| Dustyboy |
Don't let Sandy tempt you E. You stick in there with your "sort of" commitment. With that kind of commitment you could move uhhhh, mountains? no, no, not mountains ummm, lets see, sort of, sort of?  Well any way me and you buddy, all the way, sort of, definitly. 
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| pikachu |
I would like to do this. I have been zero-carbing very nicely but not losing weight, and I am blaming the diet coke. It's really hard for me to stop, though. | ||||
| Dustyboy |
Jump on board its not to late! I woke up with a head ache this morning and I am craving something sweet but that just makes me more determined to brake my habit. | ||||
| SandyDown |
Hey dusty, just remembered when I first wanted to quit diet cola, someone gave me a good tip, they said its a good idea to replace the diet soda with 0 carb (sucralose sweetened) falvoured drinks. Unfortunately that didn't work for me, splenda gives me bloating and cravings.. I tried volvic flavoured water 0 carb, but I got an awful awful headache, not sure why, may be I was sensitive to the flavourings?? Others did it by drinking fizzy mineral water... unfortunately no other drink worked for me to replace the diet cola so ended replacing it with extra food I wouldn't normally have... but hope some of the above tips work for you. | ||||
| Dustyboy |
Thanks Sandy, well it is day three for me. No more head aches and I feel fine. I am drinking an extra cup of coffee. It is a flavoured coffee bean so I don't know if that is an artifical sweetener or not. I am trying to cut out the artifical stuff but I am keeping the coffee, it seems to help me. I think I am going to make it.
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| Erasmus |
Well I'm 1 for 3 so far. I guess I'll have to step it up a bit.
-E |
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| Dustyboy |
you are killing me here E come on. Day 4, no cheats. | ||||
| Erasmus |
I gets worse. Baseball game tonight. Free soda, but WATER is $2 a bottle.
I guess I'll report in for today... 1 for 4.
I'll be good the rest of the week, honest.
-E |
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| jl53563 |
I went to a minor league baseball game last year. For some reason they had reduced prices on certain things. Beer was cheaper than water. You know which way I went. Light beer, of course.
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| paleogirl |
Diet Coke was one of the hardest things I ever quit! Sugar Free Red Bull too - I blame the aspartame in both cases. I quit coffee very easily.
Good luck! |
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| SandyDown |
Dusty, sorry to hijack your thread - I have a message for E
E- just to let you know I've been doing the squats now every day (around 60 a day but not all sets at the same time, I do 20 then do other things at home etc, then I do another 20) I do the full squats, not half ones, someone told me its more effective, I have also been doing a few quads and arms callanetics movements (not much) but the good news I can see a really big improvement, the arms improvement is so visible, my quads feel like hard rock now (used to feel very squishy/squidgy before) so am very pleased, will continue with squats, perhaps increase to them and ordered the whole callanetics DVD. Only am not sure about the frequency, I really prefer to do exercise every day, if I do one day on one day off I usually fall off the wagon, having a daily routine is better, I do also cadio every other day (walk/sprint) |
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| Erasmus |
You pegged it. Minor league opening night. You gotta love the promotions. Not great for this WOE, but you still gotta love'em.
In an attempt to mute the effect of the diet coke I opted to dilute it with Mr. Daniel's medicine. I felt a bit awkward toasting the Jayhawk win with said diluted diet coke, but I got over it.
All in all a good night. Our section won a double double hamburger and our team won 10-4 putting us into first. (it was OUR opening night, not our first game).
-E, who is on the straight and narrow for the rest of the week. |
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| Dustyboy |
I had a rough night last night, I had to sit in a City Council meeting for three hours with no caffeine. The bad thing was I had some strong carb cravings I have not had in a while. But I persevered and I feel better today even on a deadline. I can not seem to find an answers as to whether or not flavored coffee beans have artificial sweeteners in them. Until I find out I will stick with Folgers.
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| adwred |
Ew, Folgers!!
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| Dustyboy |
what? 
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| adwred |
Yuck. Crappy coffee! | ||||
| Dustyboy |
Alright darn it, what do you drink? I really think coffee is like cigars when I first started with the stogies I found that I could smoke the cheap ones or the expensive ones and not be able to tell the difference now my pallet is more refined. I just now started with foldgers. Red, do you know if there are AS in flavoured coffee beans? I have scoured the internet and can't find an answer. | ||||
| adwred |
I drink an organic coffee called 'Kicking Horse' from British Columbia, here in Canada, but any good-quality (organic) coffee bean that you grind yourself is ideal.
No I don't think there are any sweeteners in flavoured coffee. Just chemical flavourings. |
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| Dustyboy |
Chemicals hunh? That sounds bad, kinda like the diet coke I am in the process of kicking. | ||||
| adwred |
Yeah, I don't recommend them. | ||||
| Dustyboy |
O.k. pikachu, where are you? how are you doing without the Coke? Don't be afraid to admit you slipped just look at E.! He admits he's gonna slip before it happens. Well I think this is day five, yeah, yeah day five I did not have one Friday morning. I am still getting caffeine through coffee even though Red says its crap  I will upgrade my coffee I think.
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| Dustyboy |
Well it is day six and I think I am alone, E. are you still here? (sigh) oh well. I feel great today, I feel like a new man. I just realized that I now have nothing sweet to eat, ever. It is to the point where eggs and even plain ol' water seems to have a sweet taste to them. There is one more day in the seven day challenge but I am not looking back.
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| Carnation |
 That's great, Dusty! It's a big achievement to finally kick sweet tastes.
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| Dustyboy |
Thanks Carnation, yeah I kicked the sugar free Jello, the whipping cream in a can and I guess I will stop drinking the flavored coffee beans as well, I am not really hooked on them anyway. I don't know maybe I will try and cut out coffee but it has benefits you know. I am still not sure about that one. I have only been drinking it since I quite the Coke so that I could still have some caffeine. Do you do o.k. without it? It helps me before I go to the gym I know. 
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| Carnation |
First of all, I have to say I am so please to hear you've kicked the artificial sweeteners. I know some people use them and are satisfied, but I swear they scare the crap out of me, most of them were "discovered" when some scientist accidentally licked their fingers while working with chemicals designed for other uses.
Sorry, I've never been a coffee drinker. The stuff gives me a killer stomach ache, even decaf. I was, however, a huge iced tea drinker, like nonstop, all through the day, addict. I wanted to end my caffeine addiction, so tried decaf tea, which tasted like sock water, so ended up quitting altogether. I still miss it. But I find as long as my water is ice cold, I'll drink plenty of it. So, I always keep a few jars of it in the fridge. I honestly think that if the coffee keeps you happy, then for now, you should stay with it. You've made a lot of big changes lately, given up a lot of comfort foods. Give yourself a little while, maybe a few months, of coffee drinking, and then if you want to give it up, have a go at it. Or not. |
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| johndela1 |
Anyone read about the shangri la diet?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shangri-La_Diet The researcher behind this diet has concluded that artificial sweeteners raise our set point and cause us to want to eat more. He claims that eating something that has taste with no calories leaves a void of some sort that our body wants to fill. |
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| Erasmus |
Still here. Occasionally work gets in the way of my posting.
As promised, soda free. Gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta remember to not drink the same volume of coffee as I drink soda. Seems there is a touch more caffeine in coffee. 
-E |
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| Dustyboy |
You know the elimination of hunger that Bear speaks about never occured until this week. I could eat or not eat at this point, hunh. I did not realize it until now. That is great. Hey E. glad to hear you are sticking in there, it is almost friday buddy. Are you gonna keep on or will you return to you diet drinking ways? |
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| Erasmus |
I'm computer support (all of it) for a medium sized accounting firm. What is this "Friday" thing you speak of?
-E |
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| Glennart |
I think Friday is that naitive guy in Robinson Crusoe... |
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| Dustyboy |
Well here we are day seven, just me and E. as far as I can tell. I am dumping my left over diet coke. I bought some organic coffee beans and I ground them myself this morning and guess what? It taste just like Folgers!  Oh well it is fun grinding the beans anyway. I added a little bit of heavy cream to it, I eliminated dairy from my diet, except for butter, for a while for the fun of it I guess but I am putting it back little by little.
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| adwred |
You're kidding me! Are your taste buds broken??? | ||||
| Dustyboy |
Apparently. It sucks to be me. | ||||
| Erasmus |
Brain... gone.... adding 1 diet pepsi day and good the rest of the time, however many days it was...
-E |
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| Erasmus |
Adding 1 good day and 1 pepsi day. Where'd ya go, Dusty? | ||||
| pikachu |
I'm back. I went on vacation with my mother in law and had standard american diet the whole time. Ick.
I have a hard time on zero carb, and feel deprived a lot. I love Diet Coke so much that it makes me feel even more deprived to not have that too. It makes me sad to think about giving it up. I know that it's not good for me at all, but I can't seem to make myself stop. I keep telling myself at least it's not crack or gambling or some other addiction. Sigh. |
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| Carnation |
Pikachu, don't give up hope. I am really not a fan of artificial sweeteners, never have or will ingest them, and won't let my family either. However, if having your diet coke helps make the transition to zero carb easier, then have it. You can always cut it out later, once you've adjusted to your new WOE. Some people can go cold turkey, some people take baby steps, neither way is wrong.
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| Dustyboy |
I am around I just got a little sick for a couple of days (not diet Coke related I assure you) I am off the hard stuff and doing well. I have adapted to coffee quite well. Should I quit the coffee? Probably, but that is a challenge for another time you gotta eat and drink something and right now coffee is doing the job.
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| SandyDown |
Hey, for the last couple of days, by complete chance went with a friend for a coffee first thing in the morning ( added 2T of cream) , then had another a couple of hours later (mid-morning) am talking decaf coffee second time... then had lunch and etc.... i didn't even remember i didn't have diet coke till this afternoon which is almost 2 days after, aint that weird... Ok seems I was going for the diet coke because of the caffeine, so because I had some caffeine in the first cup in the morning, I didn't crave the diet coke at all....what do you guys think? what is worse, drinking diet coke or caffeinated coffee first thing? I know its ideal to quit both, but what is the worst of two evils? | ||||
| Avalon |
My guess would be the coke. It eats away at your teeth or so I've heard.
You have to stay away long enough to experience Nirvana, which is Freedom from the addictions of Man
Bless you all, Avalon 
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| adwred |
OMG coffee, hands down. Depending on who you believe, coffee at least has some health benefits, but I haven't heard anyone singing the praises of diet coke. | ||||
| phoenix7 |
Personally I would say ditch the coke  and try to get rid of the coffee by substituting with green tea. Just my 2 cents .
Besides you live in the UK right, tea is everywhere .
To be honest, I like having my coffee (especially in the morning) and some dark chocolate flavored with coffee during the day, so I understand completely .
When I've had a good nights' rest, there is less craving for cafein, well duh .
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| adwred |
I personally wouldn't suggest replacing with tea, since tea is much higher in phenols and highly reactive, but that's just me. And we're talking about health here, too - not just appetite suppression. If you're going to give up coffee, then just give up coffee.
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| phoenix7 |
Oops, sorry forgot about that . Why did you mention AS?
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| Avalon |
Her question was which is worser. I just did the same thing thank you edit Gods. Or am I all upside down again. I'm not even drinking yet! |
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| SandyDown |
its OK Ava, I understood what you and Red meant, so basically coffee is slightly better than diet coke, i sort of agree. | ||||
| adwred |
Because AS is why Sandy consumes diet coke to begin with. |
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| phoenix7 |
OK, that makes sense, I guess . Sorry, I've been reading far too much these days, things are starting to blur . 
But all I meant to say was that it's better to keep the coffee than the coke . Best to ditch both .
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| adwred |
I wish I enjoyed water, more. I honestly never have the urge to drink unless I'm eating. | ||||
| phoenix7 |
Yeah, me too . J/K What do you prefer to drink then?
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| Dustyboy |
The blood of virgins
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| Dustyboy |
Just kidding, don't hurt me..... please. | ||||
| phoenix7 |
Is it just me or does this sound more like a request .
Darned, looks like the whip icons are lost as well .
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| phoenix7 |
Good job on ditching the diet coke  .
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| adwred |
Any volunteers for today's virgin? 
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| phoenix7 |
It's probably a good thing that I'm a Flesh Eater already .
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| Erasmus |
At the risk of re-railing this thread...
Adding 4 clean days. -E |
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| SandyDown |
E??!!! even I got more than that... I only quit middle of last week... |
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| Erasmus |
Adding four days since the middle of last week. So really, of the past five days, I had four clean.
I'll try to do better.
-E |
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| Dustyboy |
I'm not sure but I think Red scares me a little.
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| SandyDown |
Hey Dusty, are you still there? how did your challenge go? are you cured from coke addiction now
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| Dustyboy |
Yes, yes I am still around, sort of. My diet is going great and I have kicked the diet Coke. I have boiled my diet down to a few simple things and have run out of questions. I have picked up a nice little coffee habit though. It would be good to drop that too but you have to enjoy some things in life ya know and not get too worked up about every little thing. | ||||
| Carnation |
Dusty! My funnybone missed you! | ||||
| adwred |
Mine too - what she said. | ||||
| Dustyboy |
Thanks guys! I feel so loved. My wife and I are adopting a little boy and the process is pretty difficult I have been really distracted lately.
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| Carnation |
 Congratulations!
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| adwred |
Wow, cool! I'm so impressed by people who adopt. I've always thought if I ever do decide to have kids, adoption would be the way I might like to go.
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| Dustyboy |
It is less painful to be sure. I had a vasectomy a year ago and now they are just showing up. The little boy has blond hair and blue eyes, he looks like Hitlers fantasy child. He sticks out like a sore thumb in our family of brown hair and brown eyes. | ||||
| Dustyboy |
I may start my own master race of carnivorous children.
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| adwred |
There's our Dusty!
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| Dustyboy |
where to hide the bodies of the vegetarians............... | ||||
| Dustyboy |
Wait I've got it, I will feed them to the children, yes! | ||||
| Dustyboy |
My children are vegetable-eater by proxy. I make sure they get 5-10 servings of vegetarians per day | ||||
| adwred |
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| Puma |
LOL...
Grats Dusty!
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| SandyDown |
Dusty, cool to hear from you, yeh I have a friend on the ALC board who had a little girl, then they decided to adopt a little girl from Chine, only to fall pregnant quickly after, she just had a little boy... so she has her hands full good luck with the process.
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| Dustyboy |
Thanks Sandy, It is almost over.
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| Kristi31 |
I also plan to adopt kids in the future and make them "carny". Way to go DustyBoy!
Best wishes to you and your wife. Enjoy your new and improved family.
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| Dustyboy |
Well here is a small update on my diet coke adventures. I have been off of them for a while now. Yesterday was deadline day for me which means a long day at the office starting very early in the morning. Well I leave the office and head straight to class on Tuesdays. Class is four hours long much of it in the dark. So I decided I needed a pick me up to survive the never ending lecture so I broke down and bought a diet Dr. Pepper. It was the most foul tasting thing. Yeak, I poured it out and filled the bottle with water.
I don't want to give the impression that I am perfect on this front, I do enjoy a diet root beer from time to time. But It is not an all day everyday kind of thing. |
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| adwred |
I can't stand Dr. Pepper, diet or otherwise. It's vile. | ||||
| Dustyboy |
This is stupid, but when I was a kid we would pour a glass put it in the microwave, heat it up and drink it. We called it hot pepper. | ||||
| Carnation |
Oh, I've heard of that. Squeeze claims that he's known two other hardcore Dr. P addicts (aside from myself, I still get the shakes of desire when I see it), and that they both insisted on it being room temp and uncarbonated. | ||||
| adwred |
Now I'm craving diet pepsi. | ||||
| Carnation |
Diet pepsi? *Shudders* If you're going to do the deed, at least drink the real thing. That would be a great post-workout carb-up. Can you get your hands on any mexican-bottled soda up there? That's what we always look for around here, because it's made with real sugar instead of hfcs. It has a much cleaner flavor, and usually comes in those beautiful glass bottles so that it feels like a real treat. | ||||
| adwred |
No, we don't have them here. I love the taste of soda whenever we're in the Carribbean, though - they almost always import the real-sugar Mexican stuff.
I actually hate 'real' (North American) pepsi and prefer the taste of diet. |
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