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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Exercise Frequency Reply with quote

Ok I am being a pain here with too many questions, but can you people let me know your opinion on resistance exercise frequency?

I constantly hear that  its best not to exercise daily so that the body completes the  process of rebuilding and repairing - but I am not so sure, why is there an assumption that the body requires rebuilding and repairing,  we are stretching and challenging our muscles, but medically and scientifically there is no proof that the muscles are broken and needs to be repaired?  I know if I tried some exercise for the first time and felt sore  the next morning, then th best way to get rid of the soreness is actually to repeat the same exercise, that way the pain /soreness just disappears! Surely if  our body is feeling better by repeating the exercise this means  the more frequent the better?

btw am talking about own weight or reasonable weight training, not body building gigantic muscle growing exercises.

Sorry again for my ignorance  but I'd really appreciate a response on this.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want basic fitness, i.e., general physical preparedness, I would look into something like CrossFit. They train a lot of athletes, military, police, firefighters, etc., as well as normal out of shape people. There's a workout on the main page you can follow that goes by a two days on one day off schedule. Good message board too.

http://www.crossfit.com/


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deep_end wrote:
If you want basic fitness, i.e., general physical preparedness, I would look into something like CrossFit. They train a lot of athletes, military, police, firefighters, etc., as well as normal out of shape people. There's a workout on the main page you can follow that goes by a two days on one day off schedule. Good message board too.

http://www.crossfit.com/


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this is a diet forum; it you want to learn about exercise it would be better to ask at a forum where there are a lot of coaches, athletes, and generally fit people.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and generally fit people


Yeah, none of those here!  Roll Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and generally fit people


Yeah, none of those here!  Roll Eyes


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're doing heavy lifts or just starting with things like sprints, probably not the best idea to do it everyday.

If you've just started lifting with just the barbell itself though, I think everyday would be okay. Bodyweight stuff is okay on a daily basis to a certain point

GTG is ment to be done pretty much everyday for maximal gains
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Exercise Frequency Reply with quote

SandyDown wrote:
Ok I am being a pain here with too many questions, but can you people let me know your opinion on resistance exercise frequency?

I constantly hear that  its best not to exercise daily so that the body completes the  process of rebuilding and repairing - but I am not so sure, why is there an assumption that the body requires rebuilding and repairing,  we are stretching and challenging our muscles, but medically and scientifically there is no proof that the muscles are broken and needs to be repaired?  I know if I tried some exercise for the first time and felt sore  the next morning, then th best way to get rid of the soreness is actually to repeat the same exercise, that way the pain /soreness just disappears! Surely if  our body is feeling better by repeating the exercise this means  the more frequent the better?

btw am talking about own weight or reasonable weight training, not body building gigantic muscle growing exercises.

Sorry again for my ignorance  but I'd really appreciate a response on this.


it is best not to get to caught up

start like this

walk a few times a week

then toss in a weight lifting session or a tennis or a basketball

then add as needed... if it is not fun or you are dragging yourself to the gym, you are partially negating the health benefits...

this is a lifelong process

however, if you are trying to get into a bathing suit or show up an ex at an upcoming wedding, then of course all bets are off, hire a trainer and bust your rear at the gym  Laugh
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think recovery is particularly important. If you're still sore after 3 days, then you're over-training. You should be able to do another workout on the same body part within 48 - 72 hours. I, personally, wait 72 hours, since with 48, my muscles weren't really growing. I'm hoping the additional repair time will allow me to lift more effectively on the days that I do it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on the exercise you're doing, how intensely you're doing it, how much you eat and sleep.  What did you have in mind, specifically?

If you start to feel tired, weak, lethargic, slightly depressed you need more rest.  If you're feeling fresh and energetic and upbeat, you don't.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been alternating callanetics, and cardio: walk/sprint, also I do every day 100 full squats, today I tried the Plie squats in attempts to target my inner thighs, however I feel as if my quads are busted completely - its been a long time almost 2 weeks since I had a rest day... thing is I go to gym at lunch break, I only spend half an hour there, and I like to take advantage of the lunch break go and do something instead of sitting at my desk all day long... anyway today my quads  hurt a lot, so will try to take time off tomorrow,  or may  be I should just do an upper body workout?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you're in pain, or very tired... the muscles are tired.. then either do something with different muscles, OR do something easy like a walk.  If you're used to 100 squats per day (the way that some people are used to cycling or walking a very long commute) then that is one thing, if you're really tired then definitely take a break.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should really take one full rest day a week. Pretty much everyone agrees on that point! 2 weeks without a break is not good - you'll burn out. Especially if you're hurting.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agreed, I was really foolish today, I felt tiered and didn't have much energy,  I still went to the gym, although I did mainly some callanetics movements, I still did my 100 Plie full squats, then leg exercises,  I think that really did it for me - when I was done, my legs were shaking, I could barely walk - may sound funny but it wasn't at the time, am not talking sore painful as I was used to the 100 squats by now, it was a kind of a complete leg burn-out.  So will take the advise and take some time off.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I kinda screwed there, I was feeling kinda tired but I worked out anyway and now I am sick and can't do anything. Upset
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really difficult to compute that if you work out when you're tired or sore that you are doing more harm than good. I can relate. That's why I've never ever been successful at keeping at a regular schedule. I always ALWAYS overdo it and then burn out. Or feel guilty for resting and it takes my motivation away. Rest time - repair time - is when the muscle grows. Rest is as important as work in a muscle growth program.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I do weights 2-3 times/week. Usually alternating upper and lower body each session. Works ok.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SandyDown wrote:
agreed, I was really foolish today, I felt tiered and didn't have much energy,  I still went to the gym, although I did mainly some callanetics movements, I still did my 100 Plie full squats, then leg exercises,  I think that really did it for me - when I was done, my legs were shaking, I could barely walk - may sound funny but it wasn't at the time, am not talking sore painful as I was used to the 100 squats by now, it was a kind of a complete leg burn-out.  So will take the advise and take some time off.


100 is a lot. kinda personal question, but is there a reason in particular u need to lose this weight fast??

cuz, ive been down that road before, multiple times. in fact, im sure many ppl on here have @ sum point or the other. Reddy's + Golooraam's advice is good. it depends on the exercise ur doing, and it would help alot to view it as a lifestyle change.

but not a dramatic change as in Rocky-style training just yet. that is just an injury waiting to happen, if u dont burnout, quit, or get suicidal depression first.

also, it would be important to know ur current fitness level, medical history, food intake and actual exercise preferences. which is kinda personal so i suggest listing simply the food intake and preferences, then u might get some constructive advice.

hope this helped a lil.  Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

carne - actually it didn't help, it pissed me off actually, you are making so many assumptions about me, and since when exercise helps in weigh loss?  


Here are the facts:
- I am not exercising  to lose weight I am doing it to tone
- I am done with weight loss, although I wouldn't mind losing another 4-5lbs, I am happy with my size at the moment.
-I didn't start off with 100 squats, I made a lot of investigations on best most effective exercises and found out that compound ones are the best, I prefer squats to lunges because they take less time (lunges takes twice as long because you have to do each leg at a time) so squats suited me, I started off doing 20 a day and worked my way up to 100, I don't find it a problem at all

- my legs were hurting  because I was doing other exercises that used same muscle every day - e.g sligh uphill walk sprint, and legs callanetics

- now I know I need to rotate and not do same exercises on the same muscles 2 days on a row, its difficult though when I have lower body workout then have to do cardio (both need to use my legs)

hope that helps you a bit too!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SandyDown wrote:

btw am talking about own weight or reasonable weight training, not body building gigantic muscle growing exercises.

Sorry again for my ignorance  but I'd really appreciate a response on this.



both these statements made me think you were a beginning lifter. an off-the-mark assumption, but surely i meant no disrespect.

again, the way i was taught..the guys who really knew what they were doing put it to me straight so perhaps that is what put you off. ppl respond well to different teaching styles, and either i dont put it the way i should have or im not the one to point you in the right direction.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly recomend Dan John`s website and Dragondoor.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I train daily (moderate to heavy intensity).
The worst effect of this practice can the shortening of my lifespan. I can live with it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Living ain't all it's cracked up to be at times, imho.  Laugh

Anyhoo...I've been training pretty much daily for some time now. Even on "off days" I do some kind of light workout. I'd say I do the more intense stuff 5-6 times a week depending on work, etc.



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