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adwred · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: Eggs Only?

Ok, so I've heard thess urban myths about old men living to 102 who eat 30 eggs a day, and such. I don't think you could ever eat 30 eggs, plus other food. You'd really have to eat eggs and eggs only. So has anyone ever tried this? An egg-only diet? How do you feel about it - is it enough, nutritionally, to eat cooked and raw eggs, alone, with some butter, perhaps, for cooking? Would coffee be allowed? I mean how can you eat nothing but breakfast without coffee? How many eggs would you eat in a day?

I would offer myself up to try this challenge, come to think of it. I would try eating nothing but eggs for a week to see if anything exciting happens. I'd even be willing to do it sans coffee if I got enough protests. Would a week be long enough? Not sure if I could go a month, but two weeks, maybe? Should this post be in the challenge section?

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ReddyMcMeaty · The Boss Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 5776

I would include coffee.. as long as it had eggs in it ;)
People did egg fasts over at the active low carber forums... and were chastised for it Laugh

but they swore it helped their stalls and got weight loss moving.
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adwred · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject:

I'm having a practice day today. I've had coffee with cream, but that's my only non-egg thing.

Can I have salt and pepper? Can I have hot sauce? Laugh

I suppose there are two levels to a challenge like this. One has coffee and hot sauce and salt and pepper and butter and one is nothing but eggs and water. I think I like the first one better.
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BlackLabelSimian · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject:

If I were to undertake something like that salt, pepper and hot sauce would have to be part of the bargain.

And I would NOT give up my java for anything. But that's just me, maybe. Laugh

ReddyMcMeaty · The Boss Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 5776

I think the second one is unhealthy in it's restriction, better go for the first to make sure your diet is more balanced Laugh

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Cavemate K · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject:

Personally, eggs aren't my favorite way to go. If you could make it even TWO days on them, then you definitely earn kudos! Yup

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adwred · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject:

Yes. I must balance my diet with hot sauce and coffee. Happy

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Avalon · Top Carnivore Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 3326

Yay! adwred is a nutty as I am! A diet schemer! I'm always googling food diet thingies just to see if it's been done. I've tried googling egg diets, but they've always included some other foods. Who are these old egg heads?

Would you be taking a multi vitamin? Did I miss that? I'm taking one on my IF orange/egg day- just in case.

adwred · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject:

I would say no, because I really want to see if eggs are enough to sustain on. Really they should be. YOu know what? I'm going plug a bunch of eggs into fitday and see how many I'd have to eat to reach a good level of nutrition and compare that to my own egg tolerance/calorie desire.
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adwred · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject:

OK, so I can't really imagine myself being able to eat much more than an average of 14 eggs a day. If I eat that, with 2.5 tablespoons of butter, this is what it comes out to:

Calories: 1298
Fat: 99g
Sat Fat: 40 g
Polyunsat: 11 g
Monounsat:35 g
Carb: 9 g
Fibre: 0 g
Protein: 88 g

The nutrients I'd be low on (according to the RDAs) would be as follows (figures are total % of RDA):

Iron:68%
Zinc:64%
Vit C:0%
Thiamin:40%
Vit. B6:75%
Niacin:4%
Folate:82%
Calcium:35%
Magnesium:23%

Now, assuming, for some weird reason, I need the full 100% of all these things in the context of an all-egg diet (since low-carb does reduce your vitamin requirements), the only figures that would concern me are Vitamin C, Thiamin, Niacin, Calcium and Magnesium.

So what do you think? Right now I don't supplement anything, even though I'm still 'low' on all of these things on my regular carnivorous diet (except maybe calcium, as I eat a lot of yogurt). I think that considering it's only a 1-2 week experiment, it's not really necessary to supplement, as I haven't dropped dead yet. And eggs are probably better for you than the USDA realizes. But I'm open to suggestions.
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koch900 · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject:

BlackLabelSimian · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject:

I would think since it's a relatively short span, deficiencies wouldn't become too much of an issue.

My rather simplistic thought is "What if you were in a position where all you had to eat was one thing for a short span?"
Are you going to starve or just eat what's available? Deficiencies be damned! Laugh

ReddyMcMeaty · The Boss Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 5776

I think what the above poster said too. It doesn't make sense to me that humans would need to eat all of everything every day, or even every week or month. Just think of those people who do 40-120 day water fasts...they're not dying... and a week or two really isn't much in the grand scheme of things.
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adwred · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject:

Avalon · Top Carnivore Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 3326

While researching the Primal Diet I learned, I think, that there is vitamin C present in raw red meat. Not sure about eggs though Roll Eyes

Good luck with that Happy

adwred · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject:

OK. If you compare 1 egg, raw, with 1 oz raw 21% fat raw ground beef, which happen to have the same number of calories, this is the comparison:

Vitamin A: Egg = 6% Beef = 0%
Vitamin C: Egg = 0% Beef = 0%
Calcium: Egg = 2% Beef = 0%
Iron: Egg = 4% Beef = 3%
Vitamin D: Egg = 7% Beef = 0%
Vitamin E: Egg = 1% Beef = 0%
Thiamin: Egg = 2% Beef = 1 %
Riboflavin: Egg = 13 % Beef = 3%
Niacin: Egg = 0% Beef = 6%
Folate: Egg = 6% Beef = 1%
Vitamin B-6: Egg = 3% Beef = 4%
Vitamin B-12: Egg = 8% Beef = 11%
Magnesium: Egg = 1% Beef = 1%

Now, I think we all know that beef has a much more complete nutrient profile than these figures would have us believe, especially if eaten outside of the context of a SAD -but, from a quick scan, it kinda sorta looks like eggs actually have a better nutrient profile than beef, if you look at them wholistically. Just sayin'. Wink

About the vitamin C issue and the possible antiscorbutic properties of eggs vs. red meat, I have one thing to say: it's two weeks! Laugh

If I get scurvy, you have my permission to laugh and point.
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Cavemate K · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject:

Any particular way you plan to prepare those eggs or are you just going to mix and match the whole two weeks?
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adwred · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject:

Mix 'n match. I couldn't do it the same way for every meal or I'd really get sick of them. I'll try to keep the yolk runny more often than not, though.
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Cavemate K · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject:

One of my quick and easy faves is poaching a couple of eggs, then dicing them up and mixing them with butter and parsely. Great in a pinch!
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adwred · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:22 am Post subject:

Sounds yum!
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BlackLabelSimian · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:18 am Post subject:

Oh, I do love poached and basted eggs. lol

Dumb question time...Would deviled eggs count? Or would they be a "no" because of the mayo?

Good luck, btw! Happy

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adwred · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject:

I've actually made devilled eggs with softened butter instead of mayo. They're not as good, but they might be good as a change if I'm getting sick of fried/poached, etc.
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BlackLabelSimian · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject:

Not a bad alternative. I actually went and read the thread in the challenge forum and saw your parameters for the challenge after I asked this question. Yeah...I'm not always the quickest on the uptake. Laugh

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woof_woof · Carnivore King Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 796

During a week I live on scrambled eggs. I may eat some meat as my evening meal but not always. I've even learnt to like cold scrambled eggs.
No health problems. Feeling good.
Weekends are for eating other stuff and it sometimes mean lots of meat.

adwred · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject:

I find when I eat a lot of eggs I can control my calories a lot more easily. They are very filling, compared to meat (for me, anyway). I can eat endless amounts of meat, but after 4 eggs, I'm stuffed.
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adwred · Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject:

Avalon · Top Carnivore Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 3326

You only had 5 eggs all day? Nothing else?

adwred · Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject:

Nothing else.
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Avalon · Top Carnivore Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 3326

5 eggs and no hunger is great! Something to remember.

BlackLabelSimian · Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject:

Dayum. Four eggs and a piece of steak or some bacon is a light snack for me. Laugh

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